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I have unfollowed them this morning. I know why would they care!?! Why do I need to tell Mumsnet? Why?? But I just want to grumble about some things!

They have seemingly made a good life financially from their YouTube blogs. I presume it's from them. I used to like the odd picture. Watch the odd video. In recent weeks they have done some bits and bobs to the garden. Absolutely fine. They put artificial grass down. Got the kids a new play park. Then fast forward a couple of months they have got a mini bar and a hot tub. Started rolling my eyes at them. Especially because they had someone trying to break in not long ago. But they still continue to tell the world what they own.
Last week the kids got a large rabbit hutch and some new pets. I saw it but scrolled past and didn't watch the video. Then the next day I was watching my Instagram stories and sue had wrote on a video that she wanted to thank everyone for their kind words and "Ellie" was feeling much better.

I read some comments (being nosey) as to what had happened to her daughter. It turned out the public had written some unkind things about the rabbits and their diet. This had led to one of her younger teens being upset. But it's ok!! Because sue sat with her and read the nice comments out and she felt happier!

what was going through my head whilst reading these comments was.....maybe it's time you stopped exposing your children to the public! Why is she allowing the public to make her kids sad? For the sake of freebies, attention and the feeling of being important? Because yes she's had 22 children and it was an interesting watch. But somehow she's completely lost her senses. She's turned her children into a TV show! She films all their birthdays. She shows everyone every single item they own. Toys/clothes etc. She's constantly accepting gifts from strangers!

I know I've followed them and for a long time I had no issue with it. But these kids are not celebrities. They have had their whole lives given to the world to judge. They are not going to live an adult life of luxury. The money will die off eventually. Then all these kids will be left with is the embarrassing reminders that everyone was watching their every move from the day they were born. They are now having to deal with abuse from the public and sue still can't stop because she loves that she can now get her hands on expensive items. I really hope they stop soon for those kids.

As a mum myself I just don't understand how she can do it! Why can't those poor children have anything without her telling the world

I await a hundred posts saying you are too invested in this. But it really was unnecessary stress for her kids. I also don't think sue considers the risks of showing people what you own. Let's hope people don't start attempting to break in more often! That would have been enough for me to stop.

I'm actually interested that this has become a career for some families and they must be earning well above "normal" wages from it....but I'm more intrigued by the amount of people who want to watch some random kids birthday, or them at the zoo/going for a walk/having a picnic/having a bath/being in hospital/eating some branded cereal....? (If no one was interested it wouldnt be a thing)
I watched 15 kids and counting when it first came out and there were several families on it, and then it became focussed on the radfords. I might watch a 1 hr programme every 6 months or whatever but I couldnt really be arsed to see what easter eggs they had, or who's birthday it is (that must be almost a fortnightly event), whether they bought a rabbit and same with any of the other families.

but I'm more intrigued by the amount of people who want to watch some random kids birthday, or them at the zoo/going for a walk/having a picnic/having a bath/being in hospital/eating some branded cereal....? (If no one was interested it wouldnt be a thing)

I am a carer therefore spend very prolonged periods at home and I'm awake during the night a lot too. I often put boring, mundane stuff like these youtube videos on in the background just to have company. I don't have the energy/concentration to actually sit and watch something meaningful, and I know many people in my case and others with disabilities who are housebound who do the same.

The ingham family fans 'Ifam' are almost cult like they defend everything they do even if its right infront of their eyes. Radfords are probably similar.

The inghams have just done the NC500 they ' hiked' in white fila trainers and puffa jackets until they found shop. All most comical.

@Mothermorph also I watch a lot of the smaller family channels and it is amazing how many of them think that they are going to be abe to turn it into a well paid career. For every family who have made it there are 1000's who haven't, but are striving to do so. It's actually quite sad how they are trying to encourage their kids to also start youtube channels in the hope of being big too.

I am a carer therefore spend very prolonged periods at home and I'm awake during the night a lot too. I often put boring, mundane stuff like these youtube videos on in the background just to have company. I don't have the energy/concentration to actually sit and watch something meaningful, and I know many people in my case and others with disabilities who are housebound who do the same.
I put what I call "junk tv" on when I've got loads of ironing to do (things I dont have to concentrate on fully like location location or this morning or homes under the hammer) I guess it's not really a lot different to that. Sorry I didnt mean to offend.

No I wasn't offended at all, more trying to explain why these boring things might get so many views.

I’m not a fan of this family either, I find them very materialistic, greedy and distasteful.
None of their children get one to one time, their food portion sizes are questionable and the youngest are often dumped on the eldest available teenager, including overnight.
The mum needs urgent help, it’s like a mental disorder to be obsessed with having baby after baby with no intention of raising them. The dad too as he is clearly not preventing it and seems to encourage it a lot based on comments he makes such as, “ maybe it’ll be a boy next time” after the youngest baby was born.
Being adopted is no excuse, they weren’t in the care system and were raised by families so I’m not sure why they use that story to explain the huge amount of children they produce. I can understand the feeling of a missing piece never having known your biological family, but this is a situation many people deal with every day and they don’t have unrealistic amounts of children, they turn to counselling.
I feel very sorry for the children being a number with no proper care or attention. Regardless of what anyone thinks it’s physically impossible to give 22 children the adequate attention they need each day to thrive. Then to add several animals to the equation is just irresponsible and selfish. They need to focus on their grandchildren now and stop producing before there is a horrific consequence to another pregnancy. I come from a large family myself so I love the idea of it, but not those who are fame hungry and expose children to everyone and anyone.

Well that was a longer rant than intended

I don't think people who watch it are weirdos. Most are probably just looking because it's "fascinating" but then when you look closer at it these children don't Belong to the public. They are people who have the right to privacy.

They are like a soap opera. People have gotten to know everything about them. Names, ages, medical issues etc.

I think Noel and sue are just clueless with it. They just see it as these people love us. But I am sure there's going to be plenty of odd balls watching. I'd be scared to let my children play outside incase some crazy stalker was watching. This kind of life style needs to stop!

Didn’t even know they had a YouTube channel but I might watch it now lol

If you want to watch kids eat cereal and go for a walk you will love it lol!

Most are probably just looking because it's "fascinating" but then when you look closer at it these children don't Belong to the public.

It’s quite scary when you read some of the comments on YouTube about some of these families. The ‘fans’ talk about them as if they really know them. The families seem to like that but it would completely freak me out. It is quite strange to be so invested in a family that you don’t know.

I wonder if those children see other family. Do they have aunties and uncles and grandparents aswel as family friends they see?

Yeah they had absolute strangers sending cards to the new baby too. They only allow their fan mail to go to the pie shop. I suppose that partly protects the children from an address point of view. I know people want to be kind. But the children don't need random strangers sending cards either.

I selected yabu because you are part of the problem, as is anyone who follows them. Their followers are the reason they are able to do exactly what you're slagging them off for.

I can't stand them. They have always left a sour taste in my mouth since I found out that Sue was 13 and Noel was 18 when she got pregnant for the first time. She seems utterly obsessed with a baby being dependent on her. As soon as the youngest is walking/doesn't need her as much ect she's pregnant again. And there is absolutely no way in hell each child gets enough attention from them. Really bizarre.

Are they the ones with a zillion children

They’re awful. Non of the kids want younger siblings from the interviews I watched a good few years ago.
He got her pregnant when she was like 13 and he was an adult. Dodgy as. She seems to have some kind of learning need too
She pimps her family out for monetary gain but that gravy train will stop when she can’t have more kids due to advancing age and the others inevitably grow up.

Yeah, I remember several of the kids saying they didn't want her to have any more babies, and that was 6/7 kids ago! I also remember in one documentary they were shown locking the kids (including toddlers) in their rooms at night so they couldn't get out and disturb them. So if one of them happened to get ill or something happened in the night, they were on their own.

Yea it was definitely a documentary because I don’t follow them on SM. I remember the dinner time being like a production line with cheap food and tiny portions. Then the family saying the living solely off Noel’s pie shop. Ok. It didn’t seem to be a particularly well functioning family and the kids seemed to understand what another baby meant for them
I think initially having babies and being pregnant fulfilled an emotional need for Sue, but now it’s serving a financial need.

Awful couple - stupid and selfish to have so many children. How much must they have cost the NHS and education system? Good job we are not all that ignorant

Also claiming they don't get benefits when they obviously do. How could the magic pie shop possibly support them all? Anyway child benefit alone must amount to a fortune as they have been receiving it for around 30 years now.

They've made a career out of having children. Children who have spent their childhood being replaced time and time again then turned into little parents themselfs bringing up the younger ones. Its disgusting.

Definitely agree. I have two children so we are a family of four. My weekly shop including my son's nappies and our cleaning stuff/washing powder etc comes to £90-£100 a month. So there's must be at least £300 a week? Which is over a grand a month for food. She's going to have at least 3 in nappies. She's going to also always have children needing new shoes and clothes. Then the birthdays and christmas' the school uniforms. They go on holiday and for weekends away. I can imagine the cars and mini bus they have are not cheap. Then they have had new kitchens and dining rooms. Someone has pointed out that that was free though.

Just all wrong. She's definitely made a living out of her children. I think it will be the boys that come out in years to come and say it was horrible. As I've said up above they seem to barely be filmed. Where as the girls seem to love being filmed at the moment.

Maybe some of the older girls want to use it as a platform for their own ig pages and will get a "headstart" with followers because so many people know who they are?

I don't really get bothered by them recieving freebies because so many "influencers" do.
She and Noel didn't start their large family because they wanted to be famous. And they weren't famous for many many years.
If people were offering me free stuff especially for my kids, then I would accept if all I had to do was show it in a video. Yes it may have become a bit more ott now than but imo they are still are normal working class family, just larger