To ask whether you would have and give your DC the COVID-19 vaccine when it becomes available?

[Juniorpromdressqueen]

Apologies if this has been asked before.

I’m very pro-vax, but the thought of such a new vaccine makes me feel a bit nervous. Then again, so does the thought of coronavirus.

I was reading an article in The Atlantic about the vaccine today, and it said 21% of Americans say they won’t have the vaccine and another 30% are undecided, and it made me think about it, because my initial reaction was, “idiots!!” and then I realised that made me hypocritical, as I am nervous myself.

What would you do, if you and your family could have the vaccine at Boots tomorrow?

Hilarious all these "I won't risk injecting myself" but are happy to risk getting a virulently infectious disease that kills, causes strokes, nervous system disorders, heart attacks and messes with all your vascular system. The infectiousness and the slow onset means that if one person in your household gets it, you all do.

Just like children should not be given a vaccine for something that barely affects them to protect others. They are not guinea pigs.

Except that we don't know that it won't effect them long term. It could be like Epstein Barr, HPV or many other viruses and be implicated in autoimmune disease and cancers. Hopefully not but seems short sighted to worry about long term adverse effects from a vaccine but not the virus itself.

@TheHighestSardine

Hilarious all these "I won't risk injecting myself" but are happy to risk getting a virulently infectious disease that kills, causes strokes, nervous system disorders, heart attacks and messes with all your vascular system. The infectiousness and the slow onset means that if one person in your household gets it, you all do.

Yes that's correct, my husband got it, then I did, there's no way our children didn't have it... we all laid low together and didn't have a choice but to carry on looking after ours kids, doing a Cummings wasn't an option...

Our kids had no symptoms but they were exposed.

People seem to be hanging on to the very worst case scenarios here, most people have a mild dose!!!

It's not the plague

Yes. I would definitely do it.

Blackbird you still haven’t addressed the problem. If the vaccine is 100% then obviously vulnerable people get it, non-vulnerable people don’t, everyone’s happy.

But it seems unlikely that that’s going to be the case. We’ll probably end up with a vaccine which is better than nothing but not foolproof - like the mumps section of the MMR. In that case even if you’ve had the vaccine you’ll still be at risk unless the majority of the population has it as well. Vaccinated school staff will still be at risk if children aren’t vaccinated. So what do you propose?

Part time socially distanced schools?
Force school staff to take the risk?
Ban unvaccinated children?

It's not the plague

No, it's not, but it's a very unusual disease in terms of the broad range of systemic effects and variability in severity. In my area, the adult mortality rate has been about 5%, but that doesn't include patients who survived with disabilities and serious sequela.

Did 39 London bus drivers really die of Covid? Different media are saying this. If true it's really appalling. If there was a flu that killed this many bus drivers (and despite Lockdown!!) we'd call it a plague. Quite how anyone imagines we'd ever learn to live with perfectly healthy, working people dying in droves is beyond me. Clearly they were well enough to work. I can't quite get my head around the figure.

Did 39 London bus drivers really die of Covid? awful!!!
Just to state 39 nursery care workers in London haven’t died of Covid/ just for the sake of the debate on this thread. It’s the action of adults that will let this disease run wild!

Nursery care workers tend to be young and female and work on their feet, so their vulnerability to Covid is much much lower to start with to be fair. The bus drivers had a lethal combination of exposure to the virus and initial vulnerability.

PassingByAndThoughtIdDropIn agreed, and you have come to that conclusion because you read the statistics and understand there are sections of society that are at greater risk. This is what people who don’t want to vaccinate their children on this thread are pointing out.

I think most people agree that. The point is that if those less vulnerable people want to go on the bus then they need bus drivers to be ready and willing to drive them. You can’t force people to have vaccinations, but you also can’t force people to provide services if that will put them at excessive risk.

As I said adults need to be take responsibility for this virus- children by their very definition are vulnerable- so I will vaccinate myself and work from home and wear a mask etc but I will decide what’s best for my child.

That’s your choice - as long as you accept that this choice may have consequences for schools in particular.

I won’t accept the school blackmail argument/ this country chose to put children at the bottom of the list in terms of priorities when as a group they are low risk! If the government or unions want to screw over children they will irrespective of whether I use my child as a lab rat.