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Took my mask off on the aeroplane AIBU

602 replies

Tsubasa1 · 23/07/2020 16:30

I was on a 5-hour flight recently alone with my two kids under 3. I once every few years might suffer from travel sickness and unfortunately on this day it was the worst I've ever had. I believe it may have been caused by having to wear the mask on the aeroplane. I used 20+ sickbags and felt better during the last hour (vomited for 4 hours, 5th hour was better).
I felt really bad but after I started vomiting I couldn't physically put my mask on because I couldn't breath and it made me gag. The air stewards were furiously coming and telling me to put my mask on every 5-10 mins. I had tears in my eyes during all of this and to be honest I can't comprehend how little compassion they had. They kept coming until I firmly said I would be putting my mask on when I felt better. I was keeping my distance from everyone and had no one sitting in front of me, behind or next to me (apart from my children). I didn't have a fever and it had I had been checked before boarding the plane. AIBU to think there was no reason to harrass me while I was throwing up with my face in a bag? Are you scared of people who don't wear masks? Would you go up to someone ill and tell them to put their mask on?

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MitziK · 23/07/2020 17:37

@Tsubasa1

No on my flight had Covid, if they did I would have been contacted *@Hearhoovesthinkzebras* .
How could people know that you were vomiting out of travel sickness or whether you were lying/mistaken and were actually ill with an infectious disease, such as Covid?

They didn't. They couldn't. Which is why the attendants couldn't pat you on the head and say it's fine to vomit and keep your mask off all the time.

Llamazoom · 23/07/2020 17:37

Sounds awful op, but you ABU a little bit. If you’ve experienced travel sickness in the past you should have been prepared, especially travelling with 2 children, it must have been a miserable experience for everybody.
I don’t get travel sick, neither do my kids but I always carry Buccastem because I get migraines, it works for travel sickness and works quickly.

AluminumMonster · 23/07/2020 17:39

It was your choice to go on a 5 hour flight with two children with a previous incidence of travel sickness and want people to fawn over you during a pandemic. My sympathy lies with the air stewards.

LemonPeonies · 23/07/2020 17:40

@HostaFireAndIce to answer your odd question, for long journeys, yes she does because she doesn't want to potentially vomit the whole time? It's common sense, in hospital we give anti genetics alongside certain medications "just in case". Prevention is better than cure.

ChateauMargaux · 23/07/2020 17:41

What a horrible experience for you. I am sure you tried to explain.

I can only assume that the air stewards were very stressed having to work in what they know to be a risky environment. This situation had made many of us very very fearful. I am sorry they were not more human and understanding to your situation. Travelling with small children is difficult enough.

LaurieFairyCake · 23/07/2020 17:41

Can't believe anyone is saying you're unreasonable

You were being SICK !

Should have told them you were also asthmatic and didn't need to wear one Hmm

Aragog · 23/07/2020 17:43

You take it before you feel sick not during

Actually some travel sickness medication can be taken during too, at the first signs of travel sickness.

I always carry travel sickness pills with me these days as it can hit me in all manner of transport. It seems to have got worse. I even take it before visiting a theme park now I'm older!

mathanxiety · 23/07/2020 17:44

Were you traveling alone with two young children despite a history of air sickness?

What was the purpose of your trip?

If you had experienced travel sickness even once before you should have taken travel sickness pills before your flight. You put yourself, your children, the crew and the other passengers through a lot of needless misery and you potentially exposed all of those people to viral or bacterial illness.

YABU to have traveled at all though, in the present circumstances, unless you had a massively compelling reason to do so. Did you honestly expect that a steward would hold your baby while you went to the loo, given that you were vomiting and possibly had a vomiting bug, or Covid?

Given that you did travel, you should have taken air sickness tablets to reduce the likelihood of vomiting.

Are you scared of people who don't wear masks?
Yes I am. Because if they are so insanely inconsiderate of others that they would risk a fine (I live in a sensible place where masks are mandatory) then what else have they been doing that is likely to have exposed them to covid-19.

Someone I know died of Covid earlier this summer after over a month on a ventilator. He left a wife and two young teens. My sister got the virus in the spring, just before the country she lives in locked down. She is still suffering its after effects and it is likely her life will never be the same again. Her lungs are damaged and cannot be repaired. What her old age will be like remains to be seen.

I am actually feeling quite angered by your inability to see past your own very petty concerns here.

You wear a mask to protect others.

AmiSpan · 23/07/2020 17:45

Ive just come off a four hour flight and the amount of people wearing their masks around their chins was ridiculous.

There were quite a few people around us who made eating a bag of crisps last two hours! 😂😂

I hope you feel better now OP.

mathanxiety · 23/07/2020 17:45

Are you scared of people who don't wear masks?
This was a quote from one of your posts, not my words.

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 23/07/2020 17:46

@crustycrab

YABU.

I'd have hated to be on that plane. Grim 🤢

I'm sure the OP wasn't happy to be throwing up for 5 hours either.

Jesus, the lack of compassion on this thread is disgusting although not surprising with the way MN has been since the start of the pandemic.

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 23/07/2020 17:47

@Rhine

If you genuinely do suffer from travel sickness then you wouldn’t only get it every few years...

They weren’t harassing you they were doing their job, why do you think you are entitled to special treatment?

I can’t imagine how foul it must have been for the other passengers on that plane?

I suffer from motion sickness but not every time I travel.
blue25 · 23/07/2020 17:48

Sorry but that’s pretty gross. You shouldn’t have got on the plane if there’s a risk you’ll be in that state. Why didn’t you take a travel sickness remedy?

I’d have been really pissed off if you were on my flight. It’s not fair on everyone else.

PrincessBuggerPants · 23/07/2020 17:50

The response on this thread is really quite upsetting.

I am also really shocked the airline didn't have a plan in place for airsickness or people being taken ill on a flight.

I would complain vociferously OP.

MrsJakeLovell · 23/07/2020 17:50

You said you 'couldn't breathe' - this is utter nonsense.

www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/health/coronavirus/yorkshire-icu-doctor-runs-22-miles-hospital-wearing-mask-prove-misinformation-2919508

Tsubasa1 · 23/07/2020 17:52

@mathanxiety People are allowed to travel now and I don't need to give my reasons why. If it makes you feel any less angry PP, I always wear my mask normally but at that moment I physically felt awful putting my mask on. I couldn't do it. And I didn't expect the air steward to hold my baby either.

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impossible · 23/07/2020 17:52

Sounds horrible but I do think YABU to blame the crew. They are responsible for ensuring everyone on board wears a mask as one symptom-less passenger can risk infecting everyone in proximity (no possibility of opening the windows).

I guess it's one of those unpredictable situations but I think you're wrong to complain. Perhaps you should stop flying until mask wearing is over.

Magic2020 · 23/07/2020 17:54

Honestly, I don't know how you could have worn a mask, as it's likely it would have made you throw up more, which would in any case produce aerosols.

And how exactly would you have known that you'd be throwing up if it's a rare event?

I think people have forgotten that the masks are there to decrease the incidence of Covid, not eliminate it. Several groups of people don't have to wear them, it's not a blanket rule, and if you're having trouble breathing with a non-Covid condition (as you would do if you're gagging) you're exempt.

People have to accept an element of risk anyway if they're travelling, nothing makes it completely risk free, even if every person wears a mask all the time.

YANBU

SockYarn · 23/07/2020 17:54

It's bloody ridiculous that the cabin crew are obsessing about masks when there's a passenger obviously in distress, puking her guts up.

Unfortunately - and as amply demonstrated by some posters on this thread - there is very black and white thinking around masks. There is no critical thinking around why people may not be able to wear masks, or that in some situations, masks may hinder communication, or vomiting. Bit like my instructions on fire evacuation - even if the building's on fire, maintain social distance. Because obviously the risk of covid outweighs the risk of burning to death as a fire rages all around you. Hmm

Hope you're felling better now, OP.

Gogogadgetarms · 23/07/2020 17:54

If you refused to wear your mask for the final hour of the flight when you were not being sick then yes, you were being unreasonable.

SantaClaritaDiet · 23/07/2020 17:57

It's absolute bollocks let's be honest. Not the OP, the expectation that people wear a mask at all time.

People fall asleep, drink, have a bite to eat, blow their nose, obviously they will remove or move their masks.

If you really are scared of people NOT wearing a mask, then don't take a plane. It's not about should/could, it's about the logic and the reality of the situation.

I am not saying the rules should change, masks are there to protect others, but realistically, it's not a 100% solution. So piling on the OP is just mean.

Just because a surgeon is wearing his mask properly for hours at a time doesn't mean joe bloggs will. You accept that risk by stepping onto a commercial plane.

islockdownoveryet · 23/07/2020 17:57

If you think there's a chance you could be sick, particularly during a pandemic, why wouldn't you?*
Should would could, she didn't because she didn't think she would be sick so shoot her .
Good god nobody's perfect I think she very much will next time to avoid this .
It's all very well saying well you should of done this she didn't.
The whole mask debate is silly and I wear one but I certainly wouldn't give anyone a hard time if they don't .
It's lockdown all over again honestly can people not think with a bit of common sense .

Viviennemary · 23/07/2020 17:58

Wear a mask. If not dont travel. It isn't rocket science. Everybody's got a reason why the rules don't apply to them. When you stopped vomiting you should have put the mask back on.

islockdownoveryet · 23/07/2020 17:59

Some comments on hear seriously I'm scared to walk amongst you . Hmm

Piggywaspushed · 23/07/2020 17:59

Totally misses point of thread but I have not been able to get Buccastem for three months now llama. It seems to have been discontinued Shock Sad