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Forgive my sister or not?

86 replies

MrsRenard · 22/07/2020 20:30

I’ve spent the last 3 years caring for my Dad until he died in March. I did it with a willing heart but I nearly went under. I have 4 DC and I was working full-time but had to quit. My DSis has no children, works part-time but had only been married 1 year. Not only did she not help - which I could accept because although from the outside it looked like she was being selfish - tennis lessons and gym were often why she couldn’t help out - she actively made things more difficult for me. After actively ignoring me and being really nasty to me, now that Dad has died she is playing nice. I am finding it hard to forgive her. It feels wrong to just turn my back on her but on the other hand she not only took a back seat whilst I stepped up, she threw stones at me and made it harder. Forgive and forget?? or just move on without her?

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Dozer · 22/07/2020 22:53

Also, she wasn’t responsible for your personal decisions about providing care, giving up paid work etc, which while altruistic came at huge personal cost to you.

LocalHobo · 22/07/2020 22:54

My DSis does lots for my elderly DM. I do basically nothing.
I think my DM would be safer and happier living in a place with assisted living options, she has the funds for this, but, whist my DSis enables her to live independently she will not consider it as an option. My DSis moans about doing things for her and when she goes to Australia for a couple of months each year, my DM is left in limbo, with me and my other DSis being forced into caring demands. I am not effective in this role.
As PPs mention; did your DSis think a different care option was preferable than your DDad staying with you? Were finances a consideration?

FizzyGreenWater · 22/07/2020 22:57

I wouldn't forgive her, no.

She's shown you what she is.

It would have cost her so little to help out for a few hours, so if she gave a shit how you were and if you were ok - she would have done that, gladly.

Do you know what I think this is - she's had a shock now your dad has passed away. It's actually hit her, and she's having a little bit of a panic response 'Oh I'VE lost something here!' All about her though - not real care for you - suddenly feeling she's lost a family member and doing a bit of clinging on.

She'll soon bounce back, and revert back. And you'll be sorry you let her in.

She showed how much of a shit she gives about you. Tell her that and move on.

Sleepingboy · 22/07/2020 22:58

@LocalHobo

My DSis does lots for my elderly DM. I do basically nothing. I think my DM would be safer and happier living in a place with assisted living options, she has the funds for this, but, whist my DSis enables her to live independently she will not consider it as an option. My DSis moans about doing things for her and when she goes to Australia for a couple of months each year, my DM is left in limbo, with me and my other DSis being forced into caring demands. I am not effective in this role. As PPs mention; did your DSis think a different care option was preferable than your DDad staying with you? Were finances a consideration?
You sound like the sisters OP! What do you mean you are not effective in this role? You dont want to help?
GarlicMonkey · 22/07/2020 22:58

Be prepared for the fact that you MAY find out there's historic abuse here. It's very possible that your sister resented you looking after your father, not because of any malice towards you, but malice towards him. It may not be the case but until you know for sure, I wouldn't burn bridges with her, make sure the door is open for if she wants/needs to talk.

BrummyMum1 · 22/07/2020 22:58

So sorry for your loss OP. Flowers I have been in a similar situation with my sibling. My advice is try and separate out grieving for your father with grieving for the relationship you wish you had with your sister. It might feel like cutting her out of your life will stop the hurt she has caused but it probably won’t. Try and make her hear how her actions affected you and ask for an apology. If it’s not forthcoming then step back and keep your distance for a while then try again later.

user1493494961 · 22/07/2020 22:59

Move on without her, concentrate on your family, she sounds very selfish and will just take.

Sally872 · 22/07/2020 23:01

Do exactly what suits you just like sister did. If you want a relationship work on it. If you don't then low contact with her and don't feel guilty about it.

I also suspect she is looking for help or future babysitting and would likely ditch her.

ElephantLover · 22/07/2020 23:07

I was in the same boat as you OP & I couldn't forgive my sibling. Didn't speak to them for 5 years. Then I tried to rebuild bridges but I can't make myself ever depend on them for anything at all. It's like their selfishness has redefined them for me. I don't think I can do it although we are now on speaking terms as I have chosen to 'forget' rather than 'forgive'

Landlubber2019 · 22/07/2020 23:09

I would encourage you to move on positively, holding a grudge and being angry won't make things better, write down how you feel but then destroy the letter. Your sister sounds like she has lived very independently from you and your dad and therefore if she becomes defensive or argumentative, I don't see how that will help.

Whilst you cared for your dad, you will also have treasured memories, don't let her actions infringe on these.

Finally whilst you may be able to forgive her lack of support given time, do not forget it and only offer a relationship that suits with you x

essexmum777 · 22/07/2020 23:15

Has she actually asked for your forgiveness?

Abitofalark · 22/07/2020 23:16

Knowing how exhausting it can be mentally and physically and needing regular respite from looking after an ill or elderly parent, I would not feel the need to forgive someone who was so dismissive of my modest request for a once-a-week break. Nor would I feel able to have a close relationship with her.

I'd be inclined to let her be, however and whoever she is and you carry on with your own life and family. Tough luck if she needs you one day and you are too busy with your own concerns. Maybe she'll grow up then.

fargo123 · 22/07/2020 23:19

I'd cut her out of my life and move on without a second thought. I couldn't be bothered with someone so selfish and self absorbed.

Mummyshark2018 · 22/07/2020 23:23

On another forum just recently parents with 'only' children were made to feel guilty for only having one child (even though some of us didn't chose it) as it's cruel when. It comes to end of life burden etc. Your point in case proves having a sibling can be a pain in the arse.

I'm sorry you've gone through this. My own DM has also gone through this with her 5 siblings when burying my DGM. My aunt did some horrible things but in time my DM seems to have forgiven her (they speak on the phone). It's up to you how you want to live your life and what treatment you're willing to accept,

HyacynthBucket · 22/07/2020 23:24

I had exactly the same from my brother when my DM needed a lot of input, and it nearly finished me. The difference is that he did not change afterwards, but went on making life as difficult for me as possible over our DM's funeral (I was shut out) and in particular over my having to clear her house (a trully massive task that took me 2 years single handedly doing it all). Not only was there no help (all requests refused), but there was active underhand stuff to make it all as hard as possible. There is NC now (his choice and I have never been told why), but I have had to move on, part of which was to try and forgive all the deliberate pain he inflicted, and not just on me, but our DM and others too. It has taken me a long time, but I have put it behind me now. Resentment is a heavy burden, so I chose not to carry it. It does not mean that I condone what he did, however.
In your case OP you need to hear what your sister has to say, and have a frank conversation about how her behaviour affected you. Then you will be in a better position to judge why she acted as she did. Hope it all works out for you, but if not it is not the end of the world.

Nitpickpicnic · 22/07/2020 23:45

See, I have a different perspective.

I’ve been estranged from my little sister for 7 years. Yes, there was an ‘event’ where she did and said some truly unforgivable things, knowing I was in the most vulnerable position of my life. But that isn’t why we’re estranged.

We’re estranged because she’s a person who is currently incapable of considering other people, thinks nothing of trashing relationships, prioritises her merest whim over anyone else’s dire need. She’ll never be there in a crisis, she’ll disappear when she’s having fun and cling fervently to the denial and misplaced anger inside herself rather than getting help or trying even the smallest exercise in self-awareness or personal growth. Like your sister, OP, she has form for trying to reconnect by pretending (and insisting other people pretend) that nothing ever happened.

I came to the conclusion that life is hard enough without people like her in it, or in my kid’s life. She can peddle that drama and immaturity elsewhere.

Technically, I forgave her that terrible night. I just choose not to associate with her. In my mind, I leave a tiny door open in case she makes inroads to change her life through therapy. But I’m certainly not holding my breath. I hope it for her sake, but it’s increasingly less relevant to me. 7 years on, I’m the better for my decision. Her ability to hurt and neglect people is still alive and well, but I’ve left that battlefield far behind.

I have a very strong sense of family, and family responsibility. I don’t expect much of anything back, but even I had my limits. I see it as a big self-care move on my part, a decision that I am worthy of love and care (not just someone who dishes it out).

I didn’t write a letter or have it out with her. I told other family, though, so I suppose it got back to her. I just calmly cut contact. Not much drama ensued, after all I’d just followed her lead of generalised neglect. And I’m all the better for it.

Sorry for your losses, may new brighter days be ahead.

CodexDevinchi · 22/07/2020 23:49

OP I can’t imagine how hard it must have been for you. Three years is such a long time. Luckily he had you. I don’t think I could get past it tbh.

A few years ago I had my grandmother come and live with me for 4 weeks when she got out of hospital recovering from a broken back. None of her sons or their wives put them selves forward. Two of the wives didn’t work and were in good health. I had two small children to look after and although I struggled the kids were a tonic for her so I’m glad in a way. My father, her son, never visited once. He had a million excuses. I’ve not spoken to him since.

Really sorry for your loss Flowers

Fungster · 22/07/2020 23:53

She sounds like a selfish, lazy bitch - not a term I use loosely. She wouldn't even plan a time to visit so that you could have a small break? A childless part-time employee who wouldn't help out her sister who had a FT job and 4 kids? You're a saint, OP - she'd have had a piece of my mind a long time ago (assuming there's not a massive backstory about how your dad mistreated her for years.)

I'm sorry you're in this position, but honestly, you have Herculean self-control to not have exploded by now.

TheBouquets · 23/07/2020 00:05

I am sorry to hear of your loss
I was in a similar situation giving all the care and there being no one else around. I have known others in the same circumstances again being left on their own to deal with all the problems of caring for parents.
After the death of my last parent siblings made contact with me after being absent for 15 years. I was stupid enough to think they really wanted to be friends. It was all about money. The money had been set aside for them. They got the money but I hope they don't ever think I will care for any of those who left me to cope alone. I have seen through all those who were hanging around for money or tried to get their hands on money and I have left them to grab whatever they can but not from those they tried to take advantage of.
For those PP who think they do not want to do personal care for their parents. I was a carer for 2 parents and 2 grandparents and never once did any personal care for any of them. We had paid carers for that. They did not want me doing anything like that and although I would have done my best I did not want to,.

EKGEMS · 23/07/2020 01:04

Congrats Quitecleanbandit2020 You've just posted the most insensitive post I've ever seen on MumsNet do you want a blue ribbon or a tiara and sash?

MrsRenard · 23/07/2020 06:51

Thanks so much for all your comments. Many of you have nailed it (how I’m feeling) and I’m sorry so many of you have been through similar.
I really do appreciate you giving your time and emotional energy to try to help me untangle stuff in my mind.
Unfortunately I had some shocking news last night - a close relative (only in their 50’s) has been admitted to ITU with COVID - so I’m going to step out now. Take care everyone.

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SeasonFinale · 23/07/2020 06:58

I agree with those saying who chose for father to live with you. This could be my mum and her sister with sister speaking. But the fact was that sister decided that father was moving in with her woth no consultation with the family and then started making demands of help. The reality is their father could have had help with a home care package but sister took over.

Perhaps OP's sister felt minimalised in the whole situation. Perhaps she felt OP was dictating when she should be available.

It is never as black and white as it seems and when you hear one side of a story.

SnuggyBuggy · 23/07/2020 07:16

The problem is some people feel able to provide personal care to their own family and some don't. Neither position is wrong and I agree it's no good feeling resentful if you are willing but your other siblings aren't.

The making things harder is obviously different.

back2good · 23/07/2020 10:27

Sorry to hear about your relative, OP. I hope they come through ok.

Emeraldshamrock · 23/07/2020 14:27

@MrsRenard Good luck on your journey. ☘ I hope your relative recovers well.