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Women filmed in car (social distancing)

100 replies

TrailMonkey · 22/07/2020 08:57

To think the man who filmed the women in the car regarding her complaining about social distancing was wrong to plaster it all over the internet calling her crazy because it seems likely she's vulnerable?

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SunInTheSkyYouKnowHowIFeel · 23/07/2020 08:06

*posting not paying

thedancingbear · 23/07/2020 08:12

I just knew that if I scrolled to the last page that the narrative would be 'it's fine for her to behave abusively, because she's a woman'

sigh.

Bluntness100 · 23/07/2020 08:16

because it's completely disproportionate to what she actually did

That’s illogical, but people are judging the reality of what she did. The video evidence. Their reactions are based on fact.

What you’re really saying is he should not let folks see what she did. And the question would be why shouldn’t he? Why should he cover it up for her? People are only seeing what she actually did. Why should he hide the facts? When he was the one abused?

Yetiyoga · 23/07/2020 08:21

Yes she was in the wrong to shout but OMG why is this on the news or on social media? It is like nobody can make a mistake anymore.

SunInTheSkyYouKnowHowIFeel · 23/07/2020 08:27

dancingbear where has anyone said that?

Pumperthepumper · 23/07/2020 08:30

@Bluntness100

That’s not true though

Of course it’s true, if she hadn’t done it there would be nothing to put on social media.

Stop blaming the victim for this woman’s actions.

Why did it have to go on social media at all? Humiliation?
Pobblebonk · 23/07/2020 08:34

It's fairly ridiculous to say the police should have been left to deal with this; we all know that they would do precisely nothing about it.

I'm slightly torn about it: on the one hand, putting something on social media seems disproportionate. On the other hand, the person who did it in this case had no way of knowing it would go viral. But, more pertinently, if it's the case that this woman habitually goes around yelling at people like this and making their lives miserable, maybe it's not a bad thing it this stops her. And if others like her are made to think twice as a result, that's a definite win.

Pobblebonk · 23/07/2020 08:37

Filming it is one thing although I’m not sure legally on the standing of recording someone without consent in their own private vehicle where they might exact the right to some privacy.

I think when someone is yelling at another person in public, they have forfeited their right to privacy - particularly when the other person is a stranger just going about their normal business. The fact that they choose to do their yelling from their car makes no difference whatsoever.

RufustheRowlingReindeer · 23/07/2020 09:08

@thedancingbear

I just knew that if I scrolled to the last page that the narrative would be 'it's fine for her to behave abusively, because she's a woman'

sigh.

Where?

And if its a narrative it needs to be more than 1 person

Chanjer · 23/07/2020 09:17

we all know that they would do precisely nothing about it.

Because nothing happened.

Somebody shouted about something, there were no threats of violence, no racism, nothing really newsworthy. Someone had a quite frankly minor meltdown in a carpark, someone filmed it for likes and lols and even wedged a bit of sad-face virtue signalling in at the end

I understand life is boring during this once in a lifetime worldwide mega-event but come on, what does the public take away from this other than a sense of petty comeuppance

SinisterBumFacedCat · 23/07/2020 09:24

If this had been a man would it have been on the Daily Mail site? Probably not.

YouJustDoYou · 23/07/2020 09:27

If it had been an older man shouting at a young woman, NONE of you hypocritical apologists would be taking his side, "oh waaa, waaa, poor woman, social media!" BS. You'd be saying "oh, what a horrible man, glad he's had people see his true colours!". Hypocrites.

Chanjer · 23/07/2020 09:28

If it had been a man wigging out like that matey would be much less likely to have been filming it in the first place. Unless he was small and odd and clearly presented no threat

Pumperthepumper · 23/07/2020 09:30

@YouJustDoYou

If it had been an older man shouting at a young woman, NONE of you hypocritical apologists would be taking his side, "oh waaa, waaa, poor woman, social media!" BS. You'd be saying "oh, what a horrible man, glad he's had people see his true colours!". Hypocrites.
Just such stupid, lazy, boring, repetitive, pointless whataboutery. It’s all over MN now and it’s so dull.
RufustheRowlingReindeer · 23/07/2020 09:34

@YouJustDoYou

If it had been an older man shouting at a young woman, NONE of you hypocritical apologists would be taking his side, "oh waaa, waaa, poor woman, social media!" BS. You'd be saying "oh, what a horrible man, glad he's had people see his true colours!". Hypocrites.
Bollocks
RufustheRowlingReindeer · 23/07/2020 09:34

Or what pumper said

Chanjer · 23/07/2020 09:38

"oh, what a horrible man, glad he's had people see his true colours

"True colours" is not 30 seconds of context free meltdown in a carpark, during a pandemic, regardless of sex

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 23/07/2020 10:12

Why did it have to go on social media at all? Humiliation?

Yes. Why not? There are no two-party consent laws in the UK, and the waters are significantly less muddy if the recording is not being done in secret.

Personally, I'm all for it. If people are happy to go around behaving shamefully toward other people then they should be happy to own that behaviour, should they be so convinced that they were in the right. And if they're not happy, then maybe this would serve as a deterrent from throwing their weight around in the first place. Not enough disgusting behaviour goes unchecked and unchallenged in this day and age. If there's a shaming mechanism available, so much the better, albeit some people would doubtless wear the badge with pride and welcome the notoriety. If you wouldn't say something you weren't happy to see made public, perhaps it would be better not to say it.

The sex of the aggressor has nothing to do with this whatsoever.

Pumperthepumper · 23/07/2020 10:19

Personally, I'm all for it. If people are happy to go around behaving shamefully toward other people then they should be happy to own that behaviour, should they be so convinced that they were in the right. And if they're not happy, then maybe this would serve as a deterrent from throwing their weight around in the first place. Not enough disgusting behaviour goes unchecked and unchallenged in this day and age. If there's a shaming mechanism available, so much the better, albeit some people would doubtless wear the badge with pride and welcome the notoriety. If you wouldn't say something you weren't happy to see made public, perhaps it would be better not to say it.

I think this is a really horrible way to think - and I also don’t think humiliation works as a deterrent, particularly with people who have mental health issues. Or children. Or teenagers. It’s a risky road to go down if you deliberately humiliate someone who already regrets how they behave. Particularly someone anonymous, actually, because there’s no follow up - if this woman committed suicide over her new notoriety, is that just a side-effect of this bold new vigilante world?

The sex of the aggressor has nothing to do with this whatsoever.

You don’t have to say this. We all know that, bar a poster or two who say the same thing on every single thread.

Pobblebonk · 23/07/2020 10:25

"True colours" is not 30 seconds of context free meltdown in a carpark, during a pandemic, regardless of sex

I thought it was at traffic lights?

Chanjer · 23/07/2020 10:52

I thought it was coming out of a carpark

RufustheRowlingReindeer · 23/07/2020 11:13

I’m assuming the video starts mid rant

I don’t really want to watch it

Had coffee with friends and we all agreed that the woman in question was wrong on so many levels

RufustheRowlingReindeer · 23/07/2020 11:15

Well two levels definitely

Holyrivolli · 23/07/2020 11:17

She’s being shamed by her own behaviour.

I have told my kids to never send anything electronically or put anything on social media that you would hate for us, their teacher or the wider world to see as you can’t control who sees it or what they do with it. This is just an extension of this - any behaviour in public is fair game. No point moaning how unfair it is. The internet has meant that this genie is well and truly out of the box.

Pumperthepumper · 23/07/2020 11:22

@Holyrivolli

She’s being shamed by her own behaviour.

I have told my kids to never send anything electronically or put anything on social media that you would hate for us, their teacher or the wider world to see as you can’t control who sees it or what they do with it. This is just an extension of this - any behaviour in public is fair game. No point moaning how unfair it is. The internet has meant that this genie is well and truly out of the box.

Have you also told them to feel free to film absolutely anyone and post in on social media to shame them? That bad behaviour is fair game for global, viral humiliation?
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