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Women filmed in car (social distancing)

100 replies

TrailMonkey · 22/07/2020 08:57

To think the man who filmed the women in the car regarding her complaining about social distancing was wrong to plaster it all over the internet calling her crazy because it seems likely she's vulnerable?

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SquashedSpring · 22/07/2020 15:41

"The woman is the one in the wrong here.If she hadnt shouted and been aggressive she wouldnt be all over social media."

No, she is all over social media, because this man decided that he had the right to put her there.

If he felt the need to gather evidence in case a crime was about to be committed, fair enough, but what was the need to share it with the world?

caoixr · 22/07/2020 15:55

Hopefully widespread posting of videos on SM will make people think twice about acting or speaking aggressively to others.

Effectively posters are saying that it’s normal to be aggressive to others and why should people be called out for being aggressive and/or ridiculous?

CandidaAlbicans2 · 22/07/2020 16:13

I'm very uneasy about the trial by social media culture we have as the implications can be far more severe than the event itself. No one knows what was going on in her head but they are quick to say she has no excuse to behave like that. We just don't know, and any of us could behave oddly out of character if we found ourselves in a bad place mentally. Sure, she might just be an arse, but even then I don't think being filmed and it plastered over the media is the way to go. Call people out on stuff, fine, but then leave it.

GinDaddyRedux · 22/07/2020 16:15

I don't like trial by social media either, but people like that driver are the reason why camera phones can be so bloody useful. Talk about "Karen", there it is writ large - here's a person who is just being downright difficult and abusive, and normally gets away with it. Not today.

RufustheRowlingReindeer · 22/07/2020 17:24

Sorry, I don’t agree. It shouldn’t be posted on social media though

I did caveat with ‘legal reasons may be ok’

So we do agree 🙂

Doihavetogotoworkdotcom1 · 22/07/2020 17:29

Why didn’t she close her window?!😆

RufustheRowlingReindeer · 22/07/2020 17:33

@Doihavetogotoworkdotcom1

Why didn’t she close her window?!😆
I know!

Haven’t seen the video, did she roll it down to yell at him?

Ohtherewearethen · 22/07/2020 17:46

What annoys me is that whenever people are being arseholes posters immediately throw out the MH/ND line as though they are so thoughtful and inclusive when in fact it's the opposite. I have ND and people with MH issues in my life and they see the loveliest people you could wish to meet.
If somebody's mental health or condition means they are allowed or inclined to attack random people for no reason then they shouldn't be driving.

Ohtherewearethen · 22/07/2020 17:49

*are not see

Mnhealth202020 · 22/07/2020 18:03

I feel like middle aged white women are constantly being excused on this forum after being caught out behaving disgustingly. Any other demographic would be slaughtered, yet she’s given a pass?

Her actions are reminiscent of white women in America calling the police on black people (including children) for no reason, whilst hysterically screaming as they lie about being assaulted in an attempt to get them arrested (or worse, shot dead.) This is why people film interactions with these women. Some have proven to be unhinged and pose a risk - they behave aggressively and lie & play the victim after being called out. It’s prudent to catch the encounter on camera so you have proof of what really happened when they lie to the police!

This woman is completely in the wrong and nothing justifies her actions. Where’s the government guidance that drivers are supposed to social distance in traffic? It doesn’t exist. It’s a rule she’s created.

She’s the one with the problem - she’s the one that needs to take action to sort it. Why didn’t she mitigate the issue by driving at a quieter time/on a quieter route, keeping her own windows up, or politely asking him to keep a distance instead of immediately being vile and aggressive? With her anger, she shouldn’t be driving.

If my vulnerable mum behaved this way, I would be so disappointed.

GinDaddyRedux · 22/07/2020 18:11

amen to this post!! ^

Bluntness100 · 22/07/2020 18:41

The woman's behaviour is very odd, but why does the man feel the need to post it online? If she was physically attacking him or his car there would be a reason to film it as evidence, but this wasn't the case.People sometimes behave in ways others don't expect, they could be suffering from anxiety, could have mental health problems, autism, or could just be having a bad day. They don't deserve to have their bad moment shared all over the world

What and the person being abused, who may also suffer from anxiety, mental health problems, autism or just having a bad day should just take it and not tell anyone on line, just to protect their abuser? Because they should just take it? It’s ok if the abuse is verbal? As long as she doesn’t physically attack him?

This is victim blaming at the worst. She did it. Either she needs help and hopefully this helps her get it, or she doesn’t and she’s been rightly shamed for her actions. What about the victim though, does he get no pass for his actions in posting it? Maybe he has anxiety or was having a bad day etc? Her abuse is ok, but him telling on her isn’t?

Why because she’s a woman and he’s a man? Would you have written th same thing if a middle aged man was hanging out his window abusing a twenty one year old woman?

Pumperthepumper · 22/07/2020 19:10

Why do we have to have so many ‘if the sexes were reversed’ type comments?

rayoflightboy · 22/07/2020 19:43

No, she is all over social media, because this man decided that he had the right to put her there.
@SquashedSpring her own actions did that.
If she hadn't been roaring and screaming,he would have no reason to film her in the first place.

Pumperthepumper · 22/07/2020 20:04

@rayoflightboy

No, she is all over social media, because this man decided that he had the right to put her there. *@SquashedSpring* her own actions did that. If she hadn't been roaring and screaming,he would have no reason to film her in the first place.
That’s not true though. Maybe filming her for evidence to show the police or something. I can’t see a justification for putting it on social media, aside from humiliation. Her own actions didn’t mean it had to go on social media.
LinemanForTheCounty · 22/07/2020 20:20

Well she clearly didn't put her fine self on social media did she? So no, it wasn't her actions that put her there. He chose to share footage of someone acting albeit aggressively but primarily irrationally and in a state of some distress, not so he could protect himself (she was long gone when he went on his tiktok) but for the likes and lols.

@Pumperthepumper I dunno, it's interesting isn't it?

SunInTheSkyYouKnowHowIFeel · 22/07/2020 22:03

How is it fair to put something like that on social media, mainly for people to laugh at. She may loose her job, have hateful comments sent to her, loose some friends, she might see people's comments and feel ridiculed, humiliated, or worse suicidal. It might take her ages to find a new job if when prospective employers google her they find this clip. How is that proportionate to her actions? If he'd taken this to the police she might have got a fine or a police record, even if she got a small custodial sentence that would be better than the humilation of the internet.
Who wants to live in a world ruled by the fear of social media shame, rather than taking things through the proper channels? What she's doing is unpleasant and fairly stupid, but it doesn't justify putting it on the internet.

Bluntness100 · 22/07/2020 22:29

That’s not true though

Of course it’s true, if she hadn’t done it there would be nothing to put on social media.

Stop blaming the victim for this woman’s actions.

SquashedSpring · 22/07/2020 22:50

Despite writing 'victim blaming' repeatedly Bluntness100, I'm not sure you know what it means, so here's a definition:

"Victim blaming occurs when the victim of a crime or any wrongful act is held entirely or partially at fault for the harm that befell them."

Not one poster has said that it was this mans fault that the woman shouted at him. What people have had issue with is the way in which he behaved afterwards, this is not victim blaming.

rayoflightboy · 22/07/2020 22:58

Who wants to live in a world ruled by the fear of social media shame, rather than taking things through the proper channels? What she's doing is unpleasant and fairly stupid, but it doesn't justify putting it on the internet.

Why doesnt it @SunInTheSkyYouKnowHowIFeel.

I think people on here think because its a woman no harm done.She didnt hit him physically,but verbally she was very aggressive.So just because shes a woman she shouldnt be held up to decent behaviour.

Thats BS.

RufustheRowlingReindeer · 22/07/2020 22:59

Has anyone said that ray

Ive missed it if they have

LinemanForTheCounty · 22/07/2020 23:34

Yeah I've not seen anyone argue that either.

ZombieFan · 23/07/2020 00:27

If its isn't on video it didn't happen.

Of course it needed to be recorded for evidence, who knows what this crazy woman could have done next and without evidence no one would have believed the young man.

The video needs to be disseminated so other people can see it. Maybe this woman has done this before, maybe worse.

Its the world we live in. Get it on tape, get it online or you will never get justice.

LonginesPrime · 23/07/2020 01:17

Talk about "Karen"

Good one. Hmm

SunInTheSkyYouKnowHowIFeel · 23/07/2020 08:05

Rayoflightboy because it's completely disproportionate to what she actually did.

If her actions are so bad, then take it up with the police & seek justice in the proper way, don't choose your own form of justice but paying it on the internet.

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