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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

or do I just have a chip on my shoulder?

122 replies

DeadlyDinners · 20/07/2020 14:32

DH has a friend who I find difficult company. I find him quite self centred and domineering, I put up with spending a limited amount of time with him because he is a good friend to DH and it is important to DH that we do spend some time together. DH can be pretty blind to this guy’s flaws and does not get irritated by him the way I do.

We are currently redecorating our kitchen. We really need a new one, it’s over 20 years old and doesn’t really suit our needs but we can’t afford a new one. Friend knows this. Friend has decided to get a new kitchen, which is fair enough, his one is old too and he can afford a new one. In this situation though, AIBU to think you might be a little bit sensitive to your friend who cannot afford the same as you?

On Saturday, friend launched into a lengthy description of said new kitchen, showed brochures etc, mainly directed at me. I smiled and nodded and said how lovely, as I would to anyone. It continued for around 20 minutes with things like “Storage is so much better these days, I’ll be able to fit in so much stuff in the cupboards, look at these.” Jarring, as storage is a real issue for us, but I continue to smile and nod. “Remember those handles you used to get, with fancy bits which are difficult to keep clean and not good when wee ones bump there head off them, well the handles these days are so sleek.” As the friend knows, our handles are hideous affairs which I am struggling to replace because they’ve left marks on the units, which I had previously mentioned to friend.

I will hold up my hands and say I’m jealous. I wish we could afford a lovely new kitchen. But as this “conversation” went on I felt more and more like he was actually trying to make a point - look what I can afford and you can’t. Do you think my feelings stem from jealousy and finding the guy annoying and combative in the past, or would you expect most people to find those sort of comments and insensitivity galling?

OP posts:
HollowTalk · 20/07/2020 16:16

@Anordinarymum

No. I think he is the jealous one here. He touched a nerve with the kitchen and saw your reaction and is having fun with it because he can The guy knows you have a problem with him and plays on it, but at the end of the day he's doing it to push your buttons.
I agree with this one. I've never heard of a guy talking for 20 minutes about a kitchen - there has to be an ulterior motive rather than pure interest!
HemulenHouse · 20/07/2020 16:16

Part of me thinks he’s just sharing because he knows you’re also into kitchens at the moment. The rest of me thinks STFU about kitchens you dullard.

vanillandhoney · 20/07/2020 16:17

He sounds a bit tactless but I bet it's only annoying you because you have problems with him anyway.

Fatted · 20/07/2020 16:17

You're letting it get to you more than you need to.

BUT I used to work with a lady like this. She always had to one up every one at everything. She joined the office when I was planning my wedding. In the first week of knowing her she went on a big speech about how weddings were a waste of mone, she would rather have a boob job blah blah blah. Which I smiled politely through. About six weeks later, she announced that she was also getting married. My DM was paying a lot of money towards our wedding because she had come into money after my DGM passed away. My colleague would give me the Spanish inquisition about my wedding. If I didn't have something (usually because we didn't want it) she would drone on for ages about how she was going to have the thing I didn't have and how important it was to her. She went on a huge rant about how unfair it was that I had parents to pay for my wedding (after she overheard me telling another colleague my DM had paid for my dress). When I got my dress, everyone else wanted to know was it white, what it looked like etc. First question she asked was how much did it cost.

I look back onto the time now and cringe because I let her wind me up. I know she was insecure about things. I know she felt left out because I was close friends with a few of the other people in the office. But she really did absolutely nothing to endear herself to me. She didn't get married in the end. She ended up in a lot of debt paying for a wedding she never had. But she was an insufferable arse with everyone about everything.

PhilCornwall1 · 20/07/2020 16:19

Just check out B&Q, we had a cracking deal on our kitchen fully fitted. It may not be a popular make for the competitive people, but it looks just as good as one three times the price.

RickOShay · 20/07/2020 16:22

Agree with @Fatted.
He is the one with the problem here, not you.
I would rather an old tatty kitchen a thousand times over than to be like your dh’s mate. Remember you won’t be the only one who finds him difficult.
Chin up, and don’t let the bastards get you down.

MotherMorph · 20/07/2020 16:25

Most of my friends have huge disposable income compared to me. Sometimes it grates a bit especially when they talk about "really tightening their belts" in one breath and the 2 foreign holidays they've booked and 10k of house renovations they are having done, in the next.....but I grin and bare it because they are my friends and they are just talking about whats going on in their world.....it just happens to be a different world to the one I inhabit! (But this guy seems like he doesnt have many redeeming qualities)

I think expecting your friends to be enthusiastic enough to go through a kitchen brochure suggests they dont have a lot else to talk about!!

NameChange84 · 20/07/2020 16:27

I’ve got Coeliac Disease, I’m dairy intolerant and I can’t eat sugar either. I’ve a friend who constantly talks about the epic cakes she bakes and sends me photographs of them, even going as far as tagging me in things, knowing I can’t eat them and knowing at times I feel like I’m missing out. It makes me jealous she can eat what she likes and thanks to my stupid body, I can’t. She’ll even send me pictures of stuff she’s baked straight away after I’ve just said I was nervous about going to a family meal as they were having to cook especially for me or after I’d mentioned I had to turn down a piece of birthday cake.

So do I have a massive chip on my shoulder or is the above just a really dickish move?

Because I see very little difference in the above and the OPs situation.

This man knows he is bragging, in very specific ways (handles, storage) about those things the OP can’t have.

If I had a kid who was bragging about amazing holidays to Disneyworld to a kid that’s family couldn’t afford to take them to Alton Towers for the day, I’d gently educate them about sensitivity.

Saying “oh I’m so excited about getting a new kitchen! You must be too!” is fine.

Taking a brochure to a woman who wants a new kitchen and cannot afford one, going into a 20 minute monologue about said kitchen, specifically targeting areas she can’t change and showing how infinitely superior THEIR kitchen will be is just rubbing the OPs nose in it.

Josette77 · 20/07/2020 16:31

I'm celiac too. It doesn't bother me when people show me what they've cooked/baked. I buy gluten free baked goods or bake myself. Sometimes I buy a gluten free cake if I'm going to a birthday just so I can eat cake when I get home. I don't take it personally.

frazzledasarock · 20/07/2020 16:31

I can say hand on heart I have never ever pulled out a kitchen brochure whilst meeting with friends for a meal/drinks.

He was definitely on a wind up and came prepared.

Next time yawn blatantly and wander off to do something else.

He’s going to do it again because he sounds like a completely dickhead. Be ready to just walk off whilst he’s wittering on.

I wouldn’t even try to be friendly or interested. He’s not your friend you don’t like eachother and he is deliberately trying to get a rise out of you.

Tell you DH doing coupley things with this ‘friend’ makes you want to gouge your eyes out with a rusty teaspoon.

Juno231 · 20/07/2020 16:32

OP I agree with @NameChange84 above. I also think your husband would be completely oblivious to it and claim his friend was sharing his excitement with you guys. You're def on the right track of not mentioning it but cutting yourself off/limiting exposure to this friend. He doesn't sound very nice at all...

NameChange84 · 20/07/2020 16:34

@Josette77 Gluten/Dairy/Sugar free birthday cakes are nearly impossible to come by and taste like shit

I don’t mind the odd picture of a cake and happily sit there when others tuck in but one friend constantly spamming me and boasting about food she knows I can’t eat? That’s a dick move.

Cookies2523 · 20/07/2020 16:35

On my god! His poor, poor wife.

speakout · 20/07/2020 16:37

A saturday night spent talking about kitchen handles?
I think I would have taken a bottle of wine and gone for a long soak in the bath.

WendyHoused · 20/07/2020 16:37

I think you're oversensitive. Having the kitchen reedone is a major project and financial commitment. Talking about it with his mate seems normal to me.

(we were all set to do ours just as lockdown hit. it's driving me bananas but I don't want to risk spending that much with everything so uncertain)

RedOasis · 20/07/2020 16:38

Just wait until he’s spent thousand on a new kitchen then go on popular ‘share’ websites and pick up new kitchen units for free. People do actually replace perfect nice modern kitchens cos they want a ‘change’. Then when your new kitchens all done you can rub in his face how all you paid for was the fancy sleek handles...... he sounds like a boring pompous show off. He definitely did it to get a rise out of you

Meredithgrey1 · 20/07/2020 16:47

Maybe you’re being overly sensitive but he does sound tedious. No one is that interested in someone else’s new kitchen

Notredamn · 20/07/2020 16:49

He sounds like a weirdo. Stood giving a monologue about kitchen cupboard handles 😂 what a drag. I'd have tuned out the minute he whipped out his catalogue. Is he a salesman?

LuluBellaBlue · 20/07/2020 16:52

Another side note - I just bought an amazing second hand kitchen off Facebook market place for £250, it’s worth around £4000 new!

willowmelangell · 20/07/2020 16:54

@speakout and would you have clipped the back of his head with the wine bottle on your way out?Grin

Toptotoeunicolour · 20/07/2020 16:57

He's just boorish and you are being very well mannered because he is a friend of your dh, but he is dull and insensitive.

billy1966 · 20/07/2020 16:57

OP, it's him NOT you.

He sounds like a boring twat.
Very possible that he knows thatbyou don't like him and wants to irritate you.

Personally I wouldn't bother mentioning it to your husband but I also wouldn't be having him over at the weekend.

Encourage your husband to meet him for a coffee or pint OUTSIDE of the house.

Your husband knows you aren't fond of him so it is reasonable to say "off with you and meet up on your own".

KaptainKaveman · 20/07/2020 17:02

He sounds like an inveterate boaster. some people just can't help it.

With me it was the woman who boasted that her newborn "sleeps for 7 hours straight every night" while I was struggling to get my newborn to latch on, sleep for more than an hour etc etc. No empathy, no emotional maturity, just boastful and intolerable. In the end I had to drop her.

diddl · 20/07/2020 17:05

@Stannisbaratheonsboxofmatches

He sounds very boring anyway!
God yes.

We need a new kitchen but neither of us cba to look into it!

Let alone bore the pants off anyone else about it!

lilgreen · 20/07/2020 17:05

20 minutes about his kitchen. Yawn. What does your DH think?