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To be annoyed at a friend because of this

88 replies

Upset11friend · 05/07/2020 00:11

Right so basically one of my close friends has had a child during the pandemic and of course I am still yet to meet her properly which is too understandable. However, what I am starting to get quite upset about is the fact that we are allowed to mix in small social bubbles now and I still have not been offered to meet her, it might only be family that have met my friend’s daughter but I should think by now that, given how close we were, that I now would be invited?

My friend does have anxiety, and I have always been there for her when she’s wanted to talk. Even after I had a baby we still did things together on weekends once or twice a month, as well as meeting up between those times for a chat. My friend was always encouraging for us to go for drinks now and again after I had my baby and sometimes I did feel a bit pressured because I didn’t want her to think that our friendship wasn’t important anymore. I just don’t get why I haven’t been invited to meet her little girl officially, I don’t mind being at a distance either, and she’d know this because I’ve never been one to want to hold other people’s babies! I’ve seen my friend and her baby at a distance out once but that’s it. I did offer for them to come around and hang out in the garden, or I come to her, when the restrictions were first lifted and she seemed grateful of the offer, but it hasn’t gone any further at all. I know she might be paranoid of me spreading germs due to the pandemic but surely being her close friend she wouldn’t think of me being so reckless to put myself in a position of catching covid (believe me I take all the precautions when shopping and don’t see other people out of shopping besides from my parents who don’t see anyone else outside of shopping and are ott with hygiene like me!) so I wouldn’t want to meet if I ever thought there was a chance of me having it, and anyway I don’t have to be indoors with them anyway, and don’t even have to hold her daughter, I just want to see her properly and just to have a chat with my friend and catch up!

I’m very worried that even after this pandemic has cleared that our friendship will never be the same. I think she won’t want to do much out of house without her daughter even when the pandemics over. She’s always been a control freak and she’s always been encouraging to do something when it suits her like going for a drink when I’ve said I don’t think I can leave my baby because bla bla bla but it’s always been “oh it’ll be ok” when it suits her. Like she moaned when she had a small hotel room at a family members’ birthday event before with a small uncomfortable bed when she was a few months pregnant but it was fine for me to sleep on a sofa bed when I was 6 months pregnant when we went away for the weekend!

Am I being unreasonable to think that this will affect our friendship and it’ll never be the same?

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IdblowJonSnow · 05/07/2020 09:01

I'd leave it op. If you care about this woman check in a few times a month.
But it sounds like you're a bit resentful of how she's treated you in the past - agree that you might have let her treat you not well and that's the issue here.

Cherrysoup · 05/07/2020 09:02

You’re being selfish. This is not about you. Give your friend breathing room and time.

Wannabangbang · 05/07/2020 09:04

It's a scary time right now and she's protecting her baby which is a very strong instinct especially when a deadly pandemic is going around.
You do realise newborns have died of this don't you?
If your friend means anything to you you need to be patient, if you continue to feel annoyed you aren't a true friend.

ChickenDrumstick · 05/07/2020 09:06

YABVU.

They have family who will come first, within the bubble rules this means you likely will need to wait a while. She has just had a baby and she has anxiety, you need to be supportive of her. If she had paraded her DC around everyone and left you out then there might be an issue, but she hasn’t.

You need to back off and let her make her own decisions. You say you are really close friends, then be there for her. Having a baby during this is strange. It will happen in time, just relax and give it a bit longer.

NotEverythingIsBlackandWhite · 05/07/2020 09:12

"I just don’t get why I haven’t been invited to meet her little girl officially, I don’t mind being at a distance either, and she’d know this because I’ve never been one to want to hold other people’s babies! I’ve seen my friend and her baby at a distance out once but that’s it."
You've seen her child at a distance and don't want to hold babies anyway. What do you mean by "meeting her little girl officially"? Considering there is a pandemic and you've seen her at a distance, I think you've met her officially.

Also, you start off by saying she's a close friend, she's anxious, just given birth in a pandemic, you don't want the friendship to change and then you list bad points about her. The reason this friendship will change is because of your attitude.

Runnerduck34 · 05/07/2020 09:22

Friendships often evolve after babies arrive, so your relationship may well change. I can see its annoying that she didnt appreciate the changes you went through when your baby was born and it sounds like in the past you've bent over backwards to fit round her suggestions and perhaps she hasnt reciprocated in the same way. Maybe you need to invest less as it sounds like in the past possibly she has taken more than she has given? Thats a bit of a different issue than not being able to see her and her baby properly now which is obviously disappointing but in current situation understandable. she will have to prioritise grandparents first in any social bubble situation although 2 metre meeting in a park or garden would be ok I think.

AlexisCarringtonColbyDexter · 05/07/2020 09:32

FGS, let this go. I cant imagine being friends with someone who is so needy, clingy and obsessive. You are being very fcking weird and other people think so too. She's just had a baby- she's probably still bleeding heavily, getting no sleep and could have PND. Its hardly surprising she isnt up for some pressured "official" meeting is it? Give her some space, make it known that you'll be there for her when SHE is ready and just unclench a bit. You are putting way too much pressure on her and if this friendship ends it will be because of you, not her.

back2good · 05/07/2020 09:41

Grow up. Not everything is about you.

DonLewis · 05/07/2020 09:45

Dude, she's just had a baby in the most weird of times. She may not be recovering well, she may be a hormonal wreck. She may just want to cocoon herself and her baby away from the big bad world. She just might not be ready yet.

Give her the space and time she needs.

Needcoffeecoffeecoffee · 05/07/2020 09:49

You've met the baby once at a distance.
All the new rules change is that you may go in her house at a distance
I'm not quite sure what you want that is different to what has already happened?
Have you offered to let her while she walks the baby in the pram in the park? Shes probably not up to hosting you

RuggerHug · 05/07/2020 09:52

As pp asked, have you been offering to get the shopping in or anything else to help while she's going through this and you're only waiting with seemingly nothing else to think about?

Billben · 05/07/2020 09:59

believe me I take all the precautions when shopping and don’t see other people out of shopping besides from my parents who don’t see anyone else outside of shopping and are ott with hygiene like me!

So all the people who have had Covid or even died of it didn’t take enough precautions you think?
Sorry, but there is no way I’d let you anywhere near my newborn yet. You are being quite selfish here OP.

TheHandStandBand · 05/07/2020 10:03

@TwinklyTwinkle definitely off the main topic here but also interested in why visitors to your garden wear a mask and gloves? Gloves more than the mask?? Gloves worsen cross contamination and if they are just in your garden I literally cannot see the point?! Just sanitise hands when out and about and wash as soon as you can.

RiftGibbon · 05/07/2020 10:05

I think you need to understand more about anxiety and how it affects all aspects of daily life.
It's not about being a control freak, it's about being able to manage a situation.

itswinetime · 05/07/2020 10:27

Is this a reverse?

Gogogadgetarms · 05/07/2020 10:34

I’m not ready to meet up with friends even abiding by social distancing measures and I haven’t just had a baby.
You need to cut her some more slack OP.

saraclara · 05/07/2020 10:42

Good grief. My friends are new grandparents, and even they had only seen their new granddaughter through a closed window until last week. And the baby is ten weeks old now.

You really are not important in this scenarios, OP.

ttigerlilly · 05/07/2020 10:46

Who calls their best friend who suffers from anxiety a control freak? Confused

She's just had a baby during a global pandemic.... I don't think she is being unreasonable at all

I understand you desperately wanting to meet her baby, but this has to be 100% when she is ready to do so and you should not take offence if she is not yet ready.

I had my first born in January, before the lockdown even started, and still the majority of my partners family have not met our baby. It's very sad but you are not alone in this scenario. It is happening worldwide.

heartsonacake · 05/07/2020 10:48

YABVU and really inconsiderate. You don’t seem to care at all how your friend feels in all of this (calling her a control freak? That’s really nasty) and just want to do what you want.

You’re not a friend at all.

TriciaMcMillan · 05/07/2020 10:57

Surely no-one can be this tone deaf, I'm edging towards....reverse?

HavingAMoan · 05/07/2020 11:21

I’m in the ‘Do you make everything about you? camp.

TwinklyTwinkle · 05/07/2020 13:47

@TheHandStandBand it's something the first guest asked to do to put us both at ease and they were fresh, unused gloves out of a box and also fresh masks out of a box, so no cross contamination as they were new.

Kaykay066 · 05/07/2020 13:59

You don’t have the right to meet her baby? You’ll meet it eventually I’m sure. Bubbles are not for just any old friend to come and visit and she’s got a brand new baby in the midst of a global pandemic and has anxiety on top of that, could she have some pnd? I didn’t talk about mine as I didn’t recognise i was poorly to begin with.

This seems to be all about you, what I would’ve done is send some nice supportive messages, left a gift on her doorstep and offered to get any shopping or anything she needs you’re there but once she’s ready you’d love to meet her new addition. It’s not your right because you’ve been friends a long tine or previously ‘been there for her’ it’s not a free pass to get your own way now. Are you only being supportive for yourself?...you make yourself sound a bit selfish. It’s hard when a friend doesn’t ‘need’ you or involve you in their life at this sort of time but with her it could be for good reason and you’re failing to recognise this might be the case given her previous history of anxiety etc.

If you’re not friends after this then o don’t think it’s her fault, don’t make her feel bad be understanding and kind like good friends should - I’m not ‘there’ for my friends for the express reason to get something back from them I hope to have their friendship and to be thought about but circumstances are not always that someone is able to be.

TheHandStandBand · 05/07/2020 14:05

@TwinklyTwinkle yeh but why gloves in the garden? If you don’t mind sharing more details? I don’t get it.

SeasonFinale · 05/07/2020 14:10

You need to educate yourself about what a bubble is in the Covid sense.

You are not in her bubble. That is all.