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To ask for another week of furlough?

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Fasttrack321 · 04/07/2020 22:33

I was furloughed at the start of lockdown and have not been working since end of March. I have been looking after my 2 young children full time as my DP has been working full time. Luckily DP's job is secure and their employer is flexible with WFH.

My furlough pay is capped at the limit of £2,500 and has not been topped up so my income has been about half of my normal pay. I am very grateful to have been furloughed rather than lose my job.

My employer wrote to me on Friday and informed me my furlough was ending and I was expected back to work on Monday. I discussed this with my DP (who is classed as a key worker, not front line) as the kids are only in part time childcare. DS is 5 and in Reception, DD is 3 and in nursery 3 days per week.

My DP is working full time 9-5 and cannot change working hours this week at such short notice. So cannot do drop off and pick up for the children (nursery and school are about 15 minutes drive apart). DP also cannot WFH and look after DD who is 3 and needs constant supervision.

This week will be impossible to juggle, but from the following week we can manage with flexible working hours and the help of a grandparent.

AIBU in asking my employer to extend my furlough by one more week? I checked the government guidance and there is a specific provision for this which allows furlough for those with caring responsibilities. I would only want this for 1 additional week.

I am incredibly grateful my employer has asked me to return and I do want to return. I have been there years and have a good reputation for being one of their top employers and managers.

My only other option would be to use a weeks annual leave, but then I'd have none left for the rest of the year and summer holidays when I would need to take leave to cover childcare again.

Most of the company were furloughed and now being brought back bit by bit.

YABU - get back to work immediately.
YANBU - take an extra week furlough to sort your childcare out.

OP posts:
ToBBQorNotToBBQ · 05/07/2020 11:15

I've not stopped working in the office throughout all this and to look after my son I've had to book annual leave. Still hoping to be furloughed even for a week but not going to happen 😂

AnnaBanana333 · 05/07/2020 11:16

OP is here to goad. Stop feeding it!

Bizawit · 05/07/2020 11:30

Is this not the case?

Fasttrack321 · 05/07/2020 11:31

@AnnaBanana333

OP is here to goad. Stop feeding it!
@AnnaBanana333 Something I hadn't thought of until today - I am 'entitled' to a generous amount of sick leave, so I could call in sick tomorrow and be paid full pay for at least a week. Maybe I'll do that.
OP posts:
derta · 05/07/2020 11:33

Does you DP not get sick pay?

MummytoCSJH · 05/07/2020 11:39

I think you're getting a beating here and shouldn't have mentioned your income, but I do understand some of the points being made. Perhaps you could say what your DP does, to help people understand why they can't do their job from home and also look after the children? I do get arranging childcare is a nightmare especially with short notice. My childcare provider still isn't open (like most near me which presumably aren't taking new children) and I don't have family support so I have no idea what I'd do as a lone parent if this happened to me.

LaMontser · 05/07/2020 11:46

You clear five grand a month, haven’t been at work since March and yet only have one more week of annual leave? Yeah. No.

LaurieMarlow · 05/07/2020 11:52

I’m also struggling with someone of the OP’s seniority having no visibility at all that she was needed back imminently.

TheTeenageYears · 05/07/2020 11:57

Presumably they are taking you off furlough because there is work which needs to be done so need you back at work. There probably should have been a minimum amount of notice required for someone required to physically be at their place of work rather than WFH for this very reason. So many childcare options are not currently available and it takes time to find alternatives to whatever was in place pre lockdown. Sorting out childcare in order to work isn't easy at the best of times, never mind now. If they are not desperate for you to be back in order to get the work done I would ask for a weeks unpaid leave rather than any of the alternatives. If they are then I would be contacting a Nanny agency for a temporary Nanny for the week.

BubblyBluePebbles · 05/07/2020 12:07

You're taking the piss.
Many of us have been WFH whilst managing and homeschool kids since March. No furlough for those who work in the public sector.
Why can't your DP take AL or ask his employer for some flexibility next week??
They are obviously his responsibility as much they are yours.
Plus, you've been receiving good money (although you complain it's only half of what you usually make) for not working since March!
How can you not see that you're taking the piss!???
What the hell is wrong with some people!??

Butchyrestingface · 05/07/2020 12:08

Ah, how the other half live. Grin

Your employer should have given you more notice than one weekend, OP. But perhaps that's the price you pay for having household incomes like yours - employers who expect you to be able to respond immediately regardless of whatever else is going on?

It sucks but a lot of people experience much the same, and on far less grand salaries. I'd take it as annual leave.

BubblyBluePebbles · 05/07/2020 12:11

Get your unappreciative lazy arse back to work ASAP. And you'd better hope your job is still viable during the following months.
SMH (shaking my head).

sst1234 · 05/07/2020 12:12

OP, why exactly is Annual Leave not an option?

sst1234 · 05/07/2020 12:13

Oh I get it now, OP is a troll.

Haenow · 05/07/2020 12:17

Whether your partner is male or female or non binary or whatever, it’s irrelevant. You have a partner who works from home. They need to step up and provide some childcare. It’s 5 working days and it’s not all day, every day if the children are in childcare/school for some of it. What a drama over one week. I’d be utterly unimpressed if my partner was intelligent and capable enough to hold down an extremely high earning role but seemingly incapable of wrangling this alongside our children for a few hours for 5 days as a one off. Hmm

PinkIsland · 05/07/2020 12:25

YABU you’ve had months at home being paid a lot of money. It was your responsibility to plan ahead for the return to work. I have had to WFH through the whole of lockdown with children of a similar age and no DP at home even when there was no childcare at all available. Your DP will manage for one week. Other people have been doing it in worse circumstances for months. You will look unwilling and ungrateful if you refuse to do it even for a week when others have gone above and beyond.

Obbydoo · 05/07/2020 12:51

Where do you think the furlough money comes from? Every penny you take is a penny less for the NHS, social care etc. You are earning considerably above the average salary in this country, pay for childcare!!! You are asking the tax payer to spend money on you stopping at home in a country which is financially on it's knees. You need to give your head a serious wobble.

Rosebel · 05/07/2020 13:19

I just re-read your original post. On that money you can get an emergency nanny and go back to work.

hadenoughbleach · 05/07/2020 13:25

You nearly had me @Fasttrack321.

After you saying this:

Something I hadn't thought of until today - I am 'entitled' to a generous amount of sick leave, so I could call in sick tomorrow and be paid full pay for at least a week. Maybe I'll do that.

I think you are actually taking the piss now. So far:

  • You claim your company effectively gave you 1 day notice to return to work
  • Your DP has worked from throughout, however your DP absolutely cannot work from home with your 3 year old present as "lives will be at risk". I don't think you previously said your DP was a key worker
  • Both you and your DP don't want to/can't take annual leave
  • Both you and your DP don't want to/can't take unpaid leave
  • Both you and your DP don't want/can't take emergency parental leave

You seem to just want people to agree that it's fine for you to have another weeks' pay at the expense of the taxpayer because you appear to have done zero planning for this eventuality (your original furlough letter will have stated that you could be called back at a days notice).

So my view is YABVVU.

TurquoiseDress · 05/07/2020 13:33

I think you or DH need to take annual leave for this

Asking to be refurloughed may not be well received especially if other employees may have lost their jobs

I'd be grateful to be back on full payroll, bite the bullet & take the annual leave or unpaid parental leave

TurquoiseDress · 05/07/2020 13:42

Actually, just thought re annual leave- you are better off taking this so you'll be back up to your usual salary, which I think is around £5k which is a sum many couples combined are earning less than.

If this isn't enough incentive then I don't know is. If you then say you don't need the extra income, then you've spectacularly missed the whole point of the furlough scheme...funded by the tax payer!Angry

SeasonFinale · 05/07/2020 13:58

No one is "entitled" to sick days but to pay when sick. You are not sick. Do not call in sick.

What was the arrangement pre lockdown for dropping off and collecting your children? Surely one of you used to deal with that or someone else did. Why are you not just reverting to your pre lockdown arrangements?

TurquoiseDress · 05/07/2020 14:05

Is the OP for real? Or just a total wind up?

Gosh I think I'll expend my brain power on some other threads

Alsohuman · 05/07/2020 14:15

I am 'entitled' to a generous amount of sick leave, so I could call in sick tomorrow and be paid full pay for at least a week. Maybe I'll do that

Yes, because your employer’s really going to believe that you’re genuinely ill just as you’re due to return to work. Just take a week’s unpaid leave.

LaurieMarlow · 05/07/2020 14:21

Is the OP for real? Or just a total wind up?

The more the thread goes on the less convinced I am

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