The nuclear family is at the heart of rape culture

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AIBU to think that any political representative, especially one who is supposed to represent women, is nuts for saying this?

The nuclear family is at the heart of rape culture.

The nuclear family is hetero-normative, so is the suggestion that hetero-normativity is the foundation of rape culture? Because I would have thought that hetero-normativity was at the foundation of the survival of the species. Is this a sort of "why are you calling LGBTQ+ pedophilic when straight people are rapists?" A sort of desperate whataboutery?

You really don't want to know.

Do you know? And if you do, why are you making comments discouraging others from discovering for themselves what the acronym stands for?

@baroqueandblue

You really don't want to know.

Do you know? And if you do, why are you making comments discouraging others from discovering for themselves what the acronym stands for?

bit touchy?

I'm sure if the poster was really interested in finding out i'm sure they could find a way to do so, like oh I don't know Google or something.

And no, i don't know what they all mean because nobody does. There is no agreement what comes after the LGB bit, other than straight is excluded for some reason.

straight ally is in there, as is + which covers "everything else" . why on earth straight would want or need to be included in it i have no idea.. its like white people wanting to be included in BLM

There’s a lot of defensive smokescreenery in things like that.

I think most people are happy for people to be/do/identify as whatever they wish providing:

1. Children are not involved in any way.

1. It does not infringe on the rights of others (eg single sex safe spaces).

Rape can happen in just about any context, regardless of orientation.

The only certainty is that it is persons with penises who do the raping. That doesn’t mean every person with a penis is a rapist.

Child abusers have often tried to blur the issues by using different phrases and arguments (even the word “paedophile” literally means “child lover” not “child abuser”- I understand that MAP is the current term that child abusers use to describe and try to legitimise themselves.

Beware those hiding behind any sort of LGBTQI+ smokescreen. Physical maturity is not the same as mental maturity and children often need protecting from themselves.

That is why there is an age of consent and why it should be strictly enforced when an adult is involved.

I've read better arguments about abuse and nuclear families before, but it was more that isolation, certain kind of laws and systems that heavily favour the nuclear family, and lack of access to resources and other people that certain portrayals of the nuclear family encourage makes it easier for abusers and harder for abused, but that kind of isolation and systemic issues can and do happen in extended families and whole communities.

@user1471447863

I questioned an inflammatory, dismissive comment you made and your response is to try to diminish my question by calling me touchy. That's a bully's tactic.

And no, i don't know what they all mean because nobody does.

An illogical statement.

I realise you're interested enough to make spiteful posts yet not interested enough to Google. But the information is out there, nevertheless.

Straight isn't technically represented in that acronym for understandable historical reasons based on violent oppression, criminalisation and marginalisation, among other painful social experiences suffered by people with diverse sexualities and genders.

If it ever begins to include paedophilia I'll stop defending it, but to the best of my knowledge it doesn't represent sexual pathology.