The nuclear family is at the heart of rape culture

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AIBU to think that any political representative, especially one who is supposed to represent women, is nuts for saying this?

She is trying to divert attention away from criticisms about lobby groups delivering RSE in schools, by throwing accusations at families instead. I think it is a potentially interesting perspective, but I feel it is being used for point scoring purposes rather than as a genuine opening to understanding.

Her tweet made no sense to me.
There was/is more rape going on within the extended family structure than the nuclear family structure. It’s not like there was no rape or rape culture pre1950s when the nuclear family structure first emerged. So the nuclear family at heart of rape culture is not correct at all.

And pedophiles aren’t gay or straight, they’re completely different. So if she’s trying to say that juvenile rape is mostly done by straight men/women to their own children, that isn’t accurate either.

Yes, I think she is trying to say that most abuse happens by straight family men, within the family.

As we know it does.

But she is using this point to deflect from the fact that paedophiles and groomers are using the LBGT+ cause as a smokescreen behind which they can operate or push boundaries.

Ans she needs to stop and think for a minute: people are not saying that gay men or other members of the LBGT+ community are in general responsible for rape etc, but that MAPs etc are using the status of + to insinuate paedophilia as acceptable. She might also stop to consider that this is not ultimately helpful for decent LBGT people, going about their lives. It will backfire horribly and that community will (second to the victims of assault) be victims.

What a load of shite. And you are taking that seriously? She can barely string a coherent sentence together let alone spell paedophile properly.

Yes, I think she is trying to say that most abuse happens by straight family men, within the family. As we know it does.

No. It’s 34% related (usually extended, not immediate), 59% acquaintances and 7% strangers.

88% male, 9% female, but their sexuality is not recorded. So we don’t know if they are straight or not. It’s not always male on female and female on male for one. And for two, it is well known that pedophiles will have children even though they are not sexually attracted to the opposite adult sex. Having a biological child doesn’t prove you are straight.

www.rainn.org/statistics/children-and-teens

It's not an either/or.
Some men within families are abusive/rapists/pedophiles within the secrecy of a family.
Some men are abusive/rapists/pedophiles outside of families.

Some people are currently trying to blur the bounds of acceptable behaviour - trying to normalise 'MAP' as a valid sexuality, or abusively violent sex as a 'kink'.

The men in the first group aren't so much the ones who need to do that, are they?

It's all bad ... two wrongs don't make a right.

This is pure idpol that you are part of the problem with, she has 4 retweets and 41 likes and you have decided to highlight her.

I would imagine that you think the 'culture war' is just some right wing conspiracy as well.

And the 'blurrers' are using the LGB, and the T, too as a smokescreen. So that idiots like this person conflates abhorrence of pedophilia and grooming of minors with homophobia - to the benefit of no one except pedophiles and groomers.

With all that is going on in our own communities and the need for education of our children in ordinary subjects like English and maths why are we spending time trying to make sense of nonsense. It will still be nonsense if we study it for 10years!
Move on, abandon these dementors, they will do our heads in next.
Just vote for somebody else next time.

Referencing the fact that a lot of rape and sexual assault is familial, rather than scary strangers?

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Referencing the fact that a lot of rape and sexual assault is familial, rather than scary strangers?

Sure let’s focus in the one third where it’s usually extended family, and ignore the fact that two thirds of sexual assault on children is done by non-related/nonfamily perpetrators. 59% acquaintances and 7% strangers. The fact that stranger is so low just shows how much grooming usually happens which makes a stranger into an acquaintance. But it’s still 2x more likely your child will experience sexual abuse outside the family than in it. www.rainn.org/statistics/children-and-teens

I think she is trying to say the breakdown of the nuclear family, is the reason why there is more rape in society?? dysfunctional family environment breeding sociopathic men who rape.

Teddy Hope is self-identified women and women's officer in the SNP Students has absolutely no credibility at all. Hopefully if they keep making stupid statements like this the SNP will ditch them.

Watch the end of this video to see what a heavyweight politician they are]]

This is Teddy.

LGBTQIA++

What does that all stand for?

Oh that Teddy. Wee gobshite

Teddy's clearly not the brightest in the bunch...

Some twat on twitter says something... so?

Anything to undermine the primary building block of stable societies.

It seems to me to be a typically Marxist analysis (and rejection) of the nuclear family.

Oh look a trans woman who is trying to lay the blame for rape culture everywhere except at the feet of men. Colour me surprised!

And if Teddy is arguing that ‘nuclear families’ need to be done away with then this also shows a lack of understanding of how women are treated by society because the ‘nuclear family’ model offers women far more protection than the alternatives.

But this will be the next ‘progressive’ push from the left I imagine
women! -don’t let yourselves become private property ..... (become public property instead)

I fear that one day I will wake up and discover that everyone has turned into a Twitter zombie. It isn't that long ago that comments like this would simply have been ignored or laughed at. Now they have to be discussed earnestly.

I wish we could go back to laughing at this utter shite.

@cdtaylornats

LGBTQIA++

What does that all stand for?

You really don't want to know.

Even once you find out that each letter stands for you still be asking what the hell they actually mean.

Arrgh wrote a post it got lost!

I'd like to see their arguments further.

Rape within marriage was only criminalised in the UK in the 90s.

Around the world child marriage happens, and for many girls and women no is not really an option.

Is that their angle?