To be delighted that Keir Starmer has already managed to get rid of the horror show that is Rebecca Long Bailey.

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I wondered why he appointed her in the first place. Glad to see he has managed to ditch her pronto. Shame he can't do the same with Rayner.

It’s got nothing to do with it because the action is to restrain - George Floyd was murdered he said he could breath he cried out it was pointed out that he couldn’t breath and that he was unconscious

When commenting about the murder of George Floyd it certainly doesn’t need to be pointed out who the training was by as the training is not to murder

Unless of course once again you have to mention Israel just like those racist that have to mention the immigrants

As someone posted up thread the US police have been killing black suspects for years, long before the formation of Israel.

Definitely. The Ku Klux Klan persecuted Jews as well as black people.

I'm in no way defending the Israeli government's treatment of the Palestinians over the years, they've done a lot of things that should be rightly condemned. But that still doesn't mean that they can be blamed for the death of George Floyd. That was the action of racist US cops, and the blame needs to remain where it belongs.

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She’s lost 20% of her salary.

Only the Leader of the Opposition, their Chief Whip and Deputy Whip receive a salary above the £81,932 of a backbench MP. Shadow ministers receive £81,932.

I suspect you may have googled and found 20%, but failed to notice this is what Australian shadow ministers receive.

Yes, I am very very very glad that RLB is not in charge of the party.

KS is not perfect but he is a decent, non-insane guy who occupies the center and looks prime ministerial. I think he has a very good chance of kicking out the wretched Boris Johnson and his ridiculous government. I just wish with all my heart that KS had been in charge during the last election, or better still during the leadup to the Brexit vote. Perhaps we would not be in such a bloody mess right now if he had.

Why the baby mama comments about Angela Rayner. Its misogyny and nothing to do with what the thread is about

Dont suppose the Blairites want Rayner in the Party though.

Cam77. You don't like Israel. We get it. The thread is about linking Israel to the murder of George Floyd.

Israel didn't kill George Floyd. They really really didn't. Not even a teeny bit. Maxine Peak mentioning Israel in that context shows her liking of a conspiracy theory against Israel, a Jewish state.

Jews have been blamed for everything throughout history and so it continues...

But you know all of this.

@dailmformmmm unfortunately some people can't see racism particularly anti-Semitism even if it is explained to them very clearly.

I would say that criticism of Israel for things which would not be targeted in other countries is often anti semitic.

Israel gets many things wrong but is too often singled out in an unbalanced way.

Maybe the Israeli army did share training tactics with the US police, the fact is whilst we’re in the middle of a BLM movement, it is at best irrelevant to mention Israel and at worst anti Semitic to draw any line between the murder of George Floyd and Israel.

Of course you can criticise Israel where relevant, however now is not the time and RLB should have known this.

I read the article and it’s ridiculous she was sacked for this. The article even corrects Maxine Peak’s mistake (looks like they’ve amended it to make it even clearer, but it does say the original version explained the mistake). It’s an excuse to get rid of a political rival and it stinks. I will keep voting Labour because the party matters more to me than the current leader but god I hope he goes soon. There are actual anti-semites around - some of whom are in government. This is NOT what this was about.

Still a lot to do to make Labour credible again. Good that he's done this, getting rid of her has made him someone in my eyes that won't stand for the party being dragged though the mud. He has also shown other members that he will do what's necessary. If you're racist anti semetic etc you're out. As it should be

But anti-Israel isn't antisemitism? Or was it worse than that?

@user1477391263 I don't know, the treatment of Palestinians is pretty shocking!

But linking to George floyd seems pretty bad...

It’s the mention of George Floyd and Israel in the same article, people can keep saying it don’t get it, why can’t you criticise Israel’ until they’re blue in the face. The fact is that article alluded to Israel having some sort of hand in the death of a black man in America. Given MP’s previous form for supporting KL after his comments about Hitler, it doesn’t take a brain surgeon to see what she was ‘subtlety’ getting at.

Maxine Peak’s mistake was to link Israel as there was absolutely no need to

But it wasn’t a mistake to mention Israel is was deliberate just so once again Israel can blamed for something

And RLB has to go there has to be a no tolerance rule

Anti-semitism aside (and I think she should have apologised), I'm glad she's gone because she was a poor Shadow Education Minister.

If her mediocre performance over the past few months is an example of her ability, then thank God she lost the Leadership election.

But it wasn’t a mistake to mention Israel is was deliberate just so once again Israel can blamed for something

It looks like Maxine Peake is an activist for Palesitinians.

She may well have been comparing the attitude of the Israeli Secret Service towards the Palestinians with the attitude of the US police towards black people (and linked the knee hold technique which she thought the US police had learnt from the Israeli secret service).

She threw women under the bus with great delight. It’s utterly unforgivable and I’m happy she’s gone. She needs to take Nandy and Rayner with her.

It’s utterly unforgivable and I’m happy she’s gone

It's a bit ironic though - and very comparable to when trans people say that something is 'transphobic' although other people don't think it is, and then people say you can't even talk about trans issues anymore without being called 'transphobic'.

YANBU. KS had to do this, JC looked away too many times and became unelectable as a result. She may not be racist but she showed poor judgement when sharing that article, and I want a government with excellent judgement next time please.

It's a bit ironic though - and very comparable to when trans people say that something is 'transphobic' although other people don't think it is

I think that comparison will be fair when millions of trans people have been systematically murdered for their gender identity.

RLB was not sacked for one retweet. She was sacked for directly refusing her party leader's instruction to remove the tweet.

The context is that she performed poorly in her job and had massively pissed off the board of deputies who regard her as a closet antisemite.

I think that comparison will be fair when millions of trans people have been systematically murdered for their gender identity

You do know that the holocaust also involved LGBT people as well?

No she wasn’t making the comparison

She was shifting blame

Like the racists who always find immigrants to blame somehow