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To not understand why people have a problem with wearing a mask?

447 replies

Changednamesorry · 23/06/2020 19:46

Where I live masks are mandatory for everyone over the age of 6 in any public indoor space (shop, train station, doctor's surgery etc) and where it is not possible to guarantee the 2m distance. 100 euro fine for non compliance.

Of course some people break this rule but the vast majority wear masks including a lot of kids younger than 6. My mum and dad in the UK also wear masks when out atm.... But they also said its ay best a 40% uptake and that in the supermarket the staff don't wear them!!!

Here on MumsNet i see lots of people saying that they "won't wear a mask".... Why? It's to protect others so surely its a good thing to do even if they are a bit uncomfortable?
In Asian countries (China, Japan, Singapore, Hong Kong, Korea) mask wearing is and always has been done to protect others.

Why?

OP posts:
Iamuhtredsonofuhtred · 26/06/2020 13:58

I think they’re fine. I wear one all day at work (hospital) and don’t have a car so have to wear one on the bus. My younger kids don’t have to, if they did that would be a problem but it’s not compulsory for under 11’s. When it’s hot like this it’s a bit unpleasant but on the whole I don’t mind them. I think it’s kind of nice to have something to hide behind to be honest

HeIenaDove · 26/06/2020 14:21

Missed call from my hairdresser. Will have to tell her that i will be back later in the year or early next year.

Changednamesorry · 26/06/2020 14:40

@FrenchFancie I am in Spain. Ludicrous hearing people in the UK moaning about how terrible the heat is in the mask.

I think it has more to do with the individualistic culture, tbh and the British superiority complex is what is stopping BoJo from learning from other countries.

Imagine if we were talking about condoms.

"too uncomfortable" "they give me a rash" "I'm a man... I'm not going to get pregnant and my risk of disease as the insertive partner is lower so I choose not to wear one because HOOMAN RIGHTS" "the government didn't make it mandatory so I'm not wearing one" ETC ETC ETC.

See how it looks?

OP posts:
Underhisi · 26/06/2020 14:50

You can avoid the condom situation by choosing not to have sex. You can't choose not to have a disability that means you cannot cope with wearing a mask.

Changednamesorry · 26/06/2020 14:54

I agree that if people have a disability that prevents them wearing a mask they shouldn't have to wear one. They should be issued with a medical exemption certificate. My issue is the people who are "a bit hot" "uncomfortable" "don't believe in them".

OP posts:
FrenchFancie · 26/06/2020 14:56

For those talking about disability - how do you think those in other countries with mandatory mask wearing get on? The incidence of disability / asthma / learning disability etc is broadly similar, so why is it only an issue in the U.K.? I know plenty of people with disability here who admit it’s uncomfortable/ difficult etc but acknowledge that it’s not forever and just a thing they must get on and do.
And having played around with my daughters pulse oximetry and mask wearing I can confirm her O2 saturation did not fall five minutes after putting on a mask, so she can clearly get enough oxygen.
I don’t know why people in the uk are making such a fuss, when other countries can suck it up and get on with it.

Underhisi · 26/06/2020 15:00

That's thousands or maybe more exemption certificates needing issuing then. That's going to take up lots of medical staffs time.

HeIenaDove · 26/06/2020 15:02

I cant choose not to get impetigo from wearing a mask either. i posted upthread the details. Its contagious and would mean a 3 week wait to see a GP for the antibiotics and cream. I wouldnt be staying indoors for those 3 weeks either. It took ages to get out of that cycle. GP told me it was a combination of stress and humidity and to let my skin breathe. Humidity and stress is what i will experience in a mask in the hairdressers ............perfect breeding ground so im NOT going and NOT using public transport.

Gaps between flare ups 18 months
4 and a half years

3 years and 3 months

Five years and eight months and still ongoing and its going to bloody stay that way ............i hope.

Underhisi · 26/06/2020 15:06

I don't think people with my son's disability would manage any better in any other country although they may be locked away and not allowed out in some countries so needing a face mask wouldn't be an issue.

Underhisi · 26/06/2020 15:08

"I know plenty of people with disability here who admit it’s uncomfortable/ difficult etc but acknowledge that it’s not forever and just a thing they must get on and do."

And some people are much more severely disabled in terms of coping and understanding and communicating than that.

HeIenaDove · 26/06/2020 15:14

In answer to that question...............disabled people in the US are accused of weaponizing the ADA if they dare to assert their rights.

Diamond Buses have now deleted this tweet so at least they saw sense.

HeIenaDove Thu 25-Jun-20 16:34:30
I posted this last night on here last night

Prove their disability to get PIP

Prove their disability to get food
Prove their disability so they dont have to risk their health in a mask.

And got proved right yet again today

Diamond Buses
@diamondbuses
·
6h
It is now compulsory to wear a Face Covering when travelling on bus services unless you are exempt from doing so.

From Monday 29th June Passengers will no longer be allowed to travel without a Face Covering unless they are able to prove they are exempt

HeIenaDove · 26/06/2020 15:16

YY @Underhisi Funny how they arent champing at the bit to emigrate there.

HeIenaDove · 26/06/2020 15:18

And some people are much more severely disabled in terms of coping and understanding and communicating than that

Yes its almost as if disabled people are individuals and that the same or similar conditions can affect different people in different ways.

Thisisworsethananticpated · 26/06/2020 15:42

They aren’t mandatory yet ? I’ve bought some for some travel we have coming up
I did try and wear a bandana in Lidl
Today but it make me really hot 🥵

When mandatory , I will

Honestly can’t see the wood for the trees these days Confused

MuddlingMackem · 26/06/2020 15:45

I have asthma which would make wearing one for any length of time a bad idea, so have so far managed to avoid places such as small shops and public transport where masks need to be compulsory. If I do end up having to go somewhere where one should be worn, I will have to put it on before entering the shop / getting on the bus and remove it once out / off.

I appreciate their benefit, but I also acknowledge my limitations.

Catastrofuck · 26/06/2020 16:09

“I don’t know why people in the uk are making such a fuss, when other countries can suck it up and get on with it.“

If you were in the uk you would see that people are sucking it up and getting on with it. You’re just seeing the people who are unhappy about it expressing it here, which is still lawful. Why does complaining = not wearing?

Sirzy · 26/06/2020 16:22

@FrenchFancie

For those talking about disability - how do you think those in other countries with mandatory mask wearing get on? The incidence of disability / asthma / learning disability etc is broadly similar, so why is it only an issue in the U.K.? I know plenty of people with disability here who admit it’s uncomfortable/ difficult etc but acknowledge that it’s not forever and just a thing they must get on and do. And having played around with my daughters pulse oximetry and mask wearing I can confirm her O2 saturation did not fall five minutes after putting on a mask, so she can clearly get enough oxygen. I don’t know why people in the uk are making such a fuss, when other countries can suck it up and get on with it.
Just because her SATs didn’t drop doesn’t mean that other people’s won’t do though. You know because everyone is different!

Ds has complex lung issues, the three professionals who are involved in the care of his lungs agree that he shouldn’t wear a mask.

BankofNook · 26/06/2020 18:14

For those in countries where mask wearing is compulsory with no exceptions and "everyone" is simply wearing them and getting on with it, that is not everyone that you're seeing. What you're seeing are the people who are able to wear masks and therefore are able to leave their homes and participate in day to day life. I can guarantee you there will be a forgotten slice of the population still at home due to their inability to wear a mask, just because they are not visible does not mean they don't exist.

MrsSchadenfreude · 26/06/2020 21:38

@BankofNook despite lockdown being eased here, there is a substantial number of people who are still self isolating. One of my work colleagues said she is not leaving her flat until there is either a vaccine or a cure. The old people, by and large, still stay home. I agree that there will be some not going out because they either cannot wear a mask, or find it too uncomfortable.

ultrablue · 26/06/2020 21:58

Well apart from my hearing impairment, I have been treated for over four years for aniexty due to a worry of not being able to breathe properly, things in the day will trigger panic attacks which wake me when I am asleep ( luckily my GP recognises this) .Seeing people wearing masks whilst I am at work triggers panic attacks.Luckily work have been good in letting me change my hours to keep this to a minimum, but from next week I have to go back to my normal hours, so god knows how it will affect me. Yeah it sounds a cop out, but you know it dies affect some people, I wish people would understand that.

BetteDavisWeLuvU · 26/06/2020 23:28

@NameChange84 agree with everything you’ve said.

OP because the majority of people are selfish assholes and as a country (England) we think we know better and are superior/and or don’t give a f about anyone else.

HeIenaDove · 27/06/2020 00:14

f people are selfish assholes and as a country (England) we think we know better and are superior/and or don’t give a f about anyone else

See what i mean? Avoid places where you have to wear a mask and its still not good enough.

Oh and choosing not to take the risk of developing impetigo again by not subjecting the skin on my face to sweaty humid conditions also means i dont take the risk of passing it on to anyone else. You do know impetigo is contagious right? Selfish? Considering im choosing to go WITHOUT a hair appointment .because of this. Nah! I dont think so.

HeIenaDove · 27/06/2020 00:34

Warm, Humid Weather
The bacteria that causes impetigo thrives in humidity and warmth. The risk of developing this skin condition increases during the summer, and there are more cases of impetigo in areas with hot and humid climate

Tube. Salons buses heat+ humidity + no air conditioning as the UK seems to see air conditioning as Nosferatu = perfect breeding ground.

Alabamawhirly1 · 27/06/2020 10:03

Unless you are coughing and sneezing or talking to someone for a long period of time (like hours) you won't transmit a virus from just being near someone.

Masks are pointless. If you have symptoms, stay home. Otherwise there is no need to wear one in a shop or bus or park. You can't catch it from just breathing near people.

Catch it, bin it, kill and don't touch people it is ample. You sneeze in a mask that's the virus all over your face, then hands, then everything you touch.

They are to give a false sense of security and make the gov look like they're doing somthing. Harping on that people should wear them and calling people names is completely out of order on people with genuine reasons to not wear them - especially when the science doesn't back up wearing them.

Parker231 · 27/06/2020 10:09

Masks aren’t pointless - they can stop the transmission particularly if someone is asymptomatic.

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