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ConfusedMartian · 19/06/2020 18:35

This could be a long one.....

I don't normally turn to forums for personal advice, but in the absence of being able to talk things through over a barrel of beer in the pub, thought I'd try this approach. Hopefully get a good range of thoughts and experiences…

Been seeing a girl for a year now, first proper relationship since separating from my wife a few years ago. She's amazing, everything I was looking for, similar interests\hobbies (even cars), really good fun, great banter, very caring, same outlook on life etc etc..... When things are good, it's the best relationship ever!

However... every couple of weeks another jealous related issue raises it's ugly head and I've got to the stage I'm sick of it. It's exhausting having to reassure her all the time and it feels like I’m indirectly being accused of cheating, frequent underhand comments\digs, interrogations… etc etc. Now I didn't go into this totally blind, we discussed from the outset we can both be jealous at times and of course in a new relationship it takes a while to build the trust, but I thought we got past this...In fact, she recently met my kids and it went really well, way better than we both expected and they've really taken to her in the last month and a bit... which makes this all the harder.

So to set the scene, I’m in regular contact with a couple of females by text and email mostly, one I’ve been speaking to for years and years, the other just this year really. In terms of frequency, I’d say once every couple of days, just general chat about how’s your week going, kids good, been up to much… Never a hint of flirtation or any other underlying agenda and would probably be a 5 minute conversation if in person max. It just so happens these two females are attractive and therefore seen as a threat, she’s not bothered about my other not so attractive female friends who I go out on the piss with now and again, funny that. She doesn’t understand why I need to be in such regular contact with them, even if it’s just 5-10 messages every other day, generally not conversational. It’s not like I’m sitting in all evening messaging them, or make it the first thing I do when I get up or last thing before bed. Going back over the years I’ve also had friendships like this with guys, but we’ve drifted for one or another reason. I’m not specifically looking for female friendship, although I do find they’re a lot more interested in genuine day to day chat then guys are…

So this is a fundamental problem in our relationship and has really come to a head in recent months, lockdown probably isn’t helping. Had a bit of a WTF moment at the weekend when friend A got in touch to ask if I had any moving boxes left over, which I did, agreed to drop them off. But then I thought to myself, this is only going to cause a problem between the girlfriend and I, so had to make up some bullst excuse I couldn’t make it. I could of lied and went, but didn’t want to do that. On reflection, it’s a ridiculous situation to be in to “fear” of the repercussions of something so innocent as dropping cardboard boxes off. A few months back we’d agreed to go biking together, when I announced this my girlfriend was not happy and had actually is was friend A who cancelled it as she didn’t want to cause any problems… which was nice of her, but I was annoyed I wasn’t able to make that decision myself.

So to try and resolve this, I’ve suggested to the girlfriend she seeks help for her jealousy issues on a number of occasions. She’s been cheated on twice in the past and clearly been badly hurt, so would support her through this process, but she’s not interested, which means it’s down to me… I have to decide:

  • Stop talking to my two (attractive) female friends
  • It’s no longer worth the ballache and reluctantly end things

Really confused what to do here.. perhaps my behaviour is unreasonable and selfish?? I guess I wouldn’t be thrilled if she was doing the same, but I’d like to think I’d deal with it on the realisation it’s just friendship. It’s 2020, we can have friends of the opposite sex right?!

Suspect responses will be totally split...

Any advice?

OP posts:
Cookies2523 · 21/06/2020 19:06

So am I wrong by saying " i have text my male friends"?

PotholeParadise · 21/06/2020 19:10

@IslandbreezeNZ

Thanks for your answers. I genuinely didn't realise that some people don't always like how the word is used. You have enlightened me!

To the poster that said 'offended' was an odd choice of words - I'm not sure how else you would describe the reaction here. People seemed offended to me that's all. That's another word not to be used then! 🤷‍♀️

Rather than putting words in 'do not use' boxes, how about using them accurately?

I dunno. These days, everyone is so eager to put other people down by calling them 'offended' with a silent 'unreasonably' in front. It a comes across as very martyrish.

Sometimes people aren't offended by you. Sometimes they... just don't like you! (Universal you, not personal you).

Frankly, there are loads of adjectives I could use for the OP, but offensive wouldn't be in the first tier. I don't think I like him. I don't expect he likes me either, but I'm not going to claim that my posts are so significant to him that he's offended. Grin

PotholeParadise · 21/06/2020 19:11

@Cookies2523

So am I wrong by saying " i have text my male friends"?
Yes. It's texted.
Samtsirch · 21/06/2020 19:21

Cookies,
I regularly text my male friends ( adjective)
I regularly text males ( noun).

Chickychickydodah · 21/06/2020 19:22

Either finish it or tell her to stop being selfish and get a grip .

Cookies2523 · 21/06/2020 19:25

An right. Thank you Samtsirch.

StarScream22 · 21/06/2020 19:31

I speak to my male friends most days. Glad my husband never minded!

Disfordarkchocolate · 21/06/2020 19:33

Good it sounds hard work. Why did you let your children meet her?

RichPetunia · 21/06/2020 19:41

Never realised describing someone as female was a bad thing - only on Mumsnet 🤣

Louise91417 · 21/06/2020 19:45

This thread🙄 the world has gone bloody bonkers

BIWI · 21/06/2020 19:45

It's not describing someone as female that's the problem! Have you not read the earlier posts?

It's using female as a noun that's the issue.

DestinationFkd · 21/06/2020 19:48

Bin her off.
You can call me what you want. No offence will be taken.

ShebaShimmyShake · 21/06/2020 19:49

@RichPetunia

Never realised describing someone as female was a bad thing - only on Mumsnet 🤣
Never realised so many people were incapable of reading clear, explanatory posts by several previous posters.
ArriettyJones · 21/06/2020 19:57

Not just females, but girl.

OP has been seeing a girl.

He is in contact with females.

No women or female friends or even a girlfriend in his world.

Men seem to be a thing in his universe, though. Interesting. Hmm

WoollyHeadedMammoth · 21/06/2020 20:50

I don't think anyone can give good advice on this esp as the person asking the question isn't even on the thread. To me, it reads like a lot of assumptions/speculation:

Had a bit of a WTF moment at the weekend when friend A got in touch to ask if I had any moving boxes left over, which I did, agreed to drop them off. But then I thought to myself, this is only going to cause a problem between the girlfriend and I, so had to make up some bullst excuse I couldn’t make it. I could of lied and went, but didn’t want to do that. On reflection, it’s a ridiculous situation to be in to “fear” of the repercussions of something so innocent as dropping cardboard boxes off.

He's all upset because he thinks his gf might be upset if she knew he was dropping boxes off for A, so he made an excuse not to do it and then agonised over it. The gf didn't even get a chance to react or comment. Why not say, "Hey, [Girlfriendsname] - my pal A texted me to see if I had any leftover boxes from my move, and I said I'd drop them by - want to come along and help me with them, and then afterwards we'll go out and do XYZ?" THEN if the girlfriend freaks out, you have a talk about it. The idea that she doesn't mind his (subjectively) less attractive friends but objects to these two only, purely on the basis of aesthetics, is an odd assumption (unless she's specifically said she minds them for this reason).

SnackSizeRaisin · 21/06/2020 21:07

It's weird that you are texting attractive female friends that often when you have a girlfriend. Cut the texting down to once or twice a month and the problem will go away.
Yes it's fine to have female friends. But you need to avoid any dodgy situations arising by keeping them at arms length. Somewhat different if it's someone you've known for years, but not at all appropriate to be texting daily with a new female friend.

ShebaShimmyShake · 21/06/2020 21:17

It's weird that you are texting attractive female friends that often when you have a girlfriend.

Nah, it's not. And it's not weird that he puts his girlfriend's feelings about it down to green eyed feminine jealousy of their being pretty, rather than because, well, he's texting them a lot. Pretty obvious why he's not texting the uglier ones too. But no, this is all about "females" and how that inferior species of being operates. It's nothing to do with him.

MrJollyLivesNextDoor · 21/06/2020 22:44

Your girlfriend should ditch you and spend her time with someone who isn't interested in having his ego continuously stroked by other attractive females.

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