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BLM and track and trace.

62 replies

Pixxie7 · 18/06/2020 22:40

Given the fact that the track and trace app is not going to be available for a while and not everyone has symptoms. Should the government invite all the people who have attended recent protests to have a test for Covid?

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DeeCeeCherry · 18/06/2020 22:43

Yeah, if they also invite all those cramming into shops, parks, etc.

TheEmpressMatilda · 18/06/2020 22:54

Most of the protestors I know went into self-imposed quarantine for two weeks after the protest, to ensure they would not infect anyone else, in the unlikely event they had become infected at the protest.

Of course the ultra-vigilance about mask wearing at the protest means it was likely safer than in shops and on beaches, where few people wear masks.

But none of that serves the “anti racism protestors are selfish thugs” agenda.

Pixxie7 · 18/06/2020 22:54

I am not against the protests in fact quite the opposite but I just feel that the government needs to be more proactive and yes the shops as well or anywhere else that have seen crowds.

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Kitmerow · 18/06/2020 22:59

@TheEmpressMatilda any proof to that rubbish you just wrote there?

You can hardly compare the rioting to people shopping ffs.

louisthetrumpetswan · 18/06/2020 23:02

Do we share similar concerns about the EDL protests, where there was much more violence, 26 police officers injured and a noted lack of mask wearing?

letmethinkaboutitfornow · 18/06/2020 23:02

Absolutely!
Everybody should have test 😂

Kitmerow · 18/06/2020 23:02

But yes OP, I think they should. And fine them while in the process, for breaking the rules.

Kitmerow · 18/06/2020 23:04

@louisthetrumpetswan where in the OP does it state specific protests?

Tigger001 · 18/06/2020 23:06

Aot of the protestors self isolated for 2 weeks after and wore masks and gloves.

Not sure i seen that with everyone climbing over eachother trying to get into nike when it opened.

But OP if you are indeed asking for the government to invite anyone who has been in a group to be tested, would that be anyone outside of current lockdown restrictions that the government sey at the time or anyone who felt they were in a situation of risk,?

Tigger001 · 18/06/2020 23:07

Is dominics fine in the post Grin

Tigger001 · 18/06/2020 23:08

Should matt hancock and the other 2 gents on the house of commons be fined ??

BudgieHammockBananaSmuggler · 18/06/2020 23:13

@kitmerow errm, it’s in the thread title?

Kitmerow · 18/06/2020 23:14

@Tigger001 there’s a lot of ‘whataboutery’ in your posts Wink

Kitmerow · 18/06/2020 23:15

@BudgieHammockBananaSmuggler apologies - I meant protestors not protests.

They were all there off the back of the BLM so of course the EDL protestors are included in the OPs question.

Linning · 18/06/2020 23:26

@Pixxie7

Given the fact that the track and trace app is not going to be available for a while and not everyone has symptoms. Should the government invite all the people who have attended recent protests to have a test for Covid?
They should yes (ideally they should just test everyone), the thing is, you can invite people for a test, it won't stop people from potentially not wanting to go or for going to the test and then fucking off to another crowded place right after (invalidating the results).

Unless you would test someone and then militarily ensure they stay at home for 2 weeks (or until they end up being negative), you would struggle to correlate testing with more safety.

Stopping people from protest with Covid, while not testing positive Becky who shops weekly at Asda and go for a daily walk without a mask and is asymptomatic, won't really stop the spread.

This type of things would only work if you do it china style, track everyone and force them against their will to stay home if positive.

Unfortunately lots of selfish people who even if positive, if asymptomatic, I am sure would still go out and about with their ''mates''.

Pixxie7 · 18/06/2020 23:27

Tiger001@ I personally think that anyone who is concerned should be able to get a test. This isn’t a blame game hence why I said invite, a fine was never in my mind.

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LastTrainEast · 18/06/2020 23:31

Most of the protestors I know went into self-imposed quarantine for two weeks lol right.

Tigger001 · 18/06/2020 23:31

No kitmero, no whataboutery at all.
Clear questions

one to the OP about who would be eligable? Anyone breaking what the government deem safe or can individuals ask for tests if they feel they are/ have been in an unsafe situation ??

And one to you (if it was you who mentioned fines)

Would you then fine matt hancock and the 2 gents who didnt follow the guidance in the housr of commons?

Dominic cummings who also broke the lockdown regulations he set?

Quite clear questions ??

Tigger001 · 18/06/2020 23:38

Pixxie, yes i agree if people feel they want to be tested they should be accepted to have one.

It may come that people who may be forced back into unsafe working conditions may wanted testing very often.

The fine question wasnt directed to you someone mentioned fining those who broke lockdown it was to them.

Kitmerow · 18/06/2020 23:38

@Tigger001 but the OP is asking specifically about the protestors. Not any groups and individual people. You haven’t answered the OP’s question and instead have tried to deflect with other situations (which are nothing alike)

So yes - whataboutery indeed.

Sandybval · 18/06/2020 23:42

Aot of the protestors self isolated for 2 weeks after and wore masks and gloves

Depending which one you went to I suppose, that certainly wasn't the case here. You can agree with people's reasons for protesting and agree that testing isn't a bad idea you know, it's not a punishment.

Tigger001 · 18/06/2020 23:43

Kitmerow, ive just answered it after clarifying the full intention.

You mentioned fining the BLM protestors, i was just clarifying if that would be across the board or just singling them out ?

ruddynorah · 18/06/2020 23:48

How about focusing testing on meat processing workers as that's where the hotpots are, as well as care homes.

Kitmerow · 18/06/2020 23:49

@Tigger001 singling who out? The OP asked if those who attended recent protests should be invited for testing and I said that I think they should (and be fined in the process)

I think you are looking for a racial slur to argue with that just isn’t there.

Tigger001 · 18/06/2020 23:55

Kitmeow ahhhh the old whatabouttery again.
no im asking a simple question about a statement you made in this discussion.

Thats how discussions work, people talk about the statements people make to find out how they come to that thinking ?

You said BLM should be fined, im asking does that mean Matt hancock should also as he broke the rules?

Its not a racist element at all its a simple question?

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