BLM and track and trace.

[Pixxie7]

Given the fact that the track and trace app is not going to be available for a while and not everyone has symptoms. Should the government invite all the people who have attended recent protests to have a test for Covid?

Most of the protestors I know went into self-imposed quarantine for two weeks after the protest, to ensure they would not infect anyone else, in the unlikely event they had become infected at the protest.

That's certainly not my experience. Most of the protesters I know (I live in London), went on to other protests both locally and to the others in central London. Those who weren't furloughed, went back to work.

To answer your question OP, no I don't think they should be offered because unless they're showing symptoms they won't work anyway.

@Tigger001

Yes, that’s how I thought discussions worked too.

However, any counter arguments in regards to the BLM movement are ‘whataboutery‘s’ and only 1 matter can be discussed at a time.

Kitmerow "only one matter can be discussed at a time " 🤣🤣

Thats not how it works, look if you cant or dont want to answer a sime question which would have been quicker than your "whataboutery" nonsense again. Just leave it, its a waste of time.

Worralliberty@ you say testing won’t work without symptoms, so why are they proposing testing footballers twice a week and nhs staff weekly?

Forgive me as I could be missing something here...

There are so many defensive responses to this question. Is suggesting that people who took part in the protests should be offered tests, tantamount to saying they are guilty selfish arseholes?

Because it seems as though it's ruffling a lot of feathers, and OP never suggested they did anything wrong?

As I said, I could be missing something?

And just to clarify; if I didn't have two very young children, I would have been protesting. And I have never attended a protest in my life, so that's not a small thing. I have a lot of respect for the reasons why people are outraged at the moment, and protesting is just one of the ways to process that outrage and try to create change.

I have zero respect for anybody who used the protests as an opportunity to loot, destroy and generally cause mayhem, serving to undermine the foundations of the protests themselves. That sickens me.

What about all the people at durdle door op? And other beaches etc?

I've seen a lot of pics of crowds at various places.

Do you feel the same about them? If so why not just talk about people at large gatherings?

If you think that's different, why?

Everyone is eligible for a test if they have symptoms
But your proposing testing anyone that was at protests etc what every day as it can take days to show so even if they had a test today that was clear , tomorrow they could get it ?

^^ see? Why is it offensive to suggest that BLM protesters are offered tests? It's not a criticism, if anything it would be a caring gesture to make sure they're healthy after doing something good?

I'd rather money was spent testing protesters than testing sunbathers

Nhs staff being tested weekly not sure that's across the board as in every staff member ?? But they are obviously much higher risk of getting
Footballers guess it's being funded by the fa and it's because they will be close to others on a daily basis with training , games etc etc
We don't have capacity to test every person weekly as if you say about protests you could say beaches , supermarkets as that the worst for social distancing here , getting their favourite brand of orange seems more important than staying 2 meters away

Suckingdowndarjeelind@ thank you that was my underlying thought. However I understand that tensions are high.

Struggling @ we currently have 25,000 track and trace people being employed many of whom by their own admission are being paid for doing nothing. To my knowledge we have no idea how many people are being tested, or the number of new cases.The situation with the nhs is a proposal.
I really don’t know if we have the capacity but the government promised 200.000 a day so it could be done in theory.

@Pixxie7 you can see how many tests are done it's mentioned in daily briefings and also on the work one yet site
We have a population of 67 million how could we test all weekly ?

**worlometer

You thi k a bunch of people who cover thier faces as they are scared the government are going to track them down and punish them for being at these protests will all sign up for a government program for people who attended the protests?

You mean the EDL types, sin?

Sucking, take s look at durdle door pics. 'sunbathers' lol

Struggling@ I didn’t suggest weekly, my comments referred to a pp who said that testing in asymptotic people wouldn’t work.

@pixie7 we also are given the number of new cases everyday at the briefing and again in the worldometer site as well as others I suspect
Anyone who has symptoms can now request a test
We don't have capacity to just test everyone weekly

@ShinyFootball

You mean the EDL types, sin?

Sucking, take s look at durdle door pics. 'sunbathers' lol

No the blm protesters who advise their members to cover their faces to protect them from government and other groups reprisals.

They believe they are "fighting the system" and the government and police they are hardly likely to sign up to identifying themselves as protesters

I still can’t see the number being tested sorry.

@SuckingDownDarjeeling

Forgive me as I could be missing something here...

There are so many defensive responses to this question. Is suggesting that people who took part in the protests should be offered tests, tantamount to saying they are guilty selfish arseholes?

Because it seems as though it's ruffling a lot of feathers, and OP never suggested they did anything wrong?

As I said, I could be missing something?

And just to clarify; if I didn't have two very young children, I would have been protesting. And I have never attended a protest in my life, so that's not a small thing. I have a lot of respect for the reasons why people are outraged at the moment, and protesting is just one of the ways to process that outrage and try to create change.

I have zero respect for anybody who used the protests as an opportunity to loot, destroy and generally cause mayhem, serving to undermine the foundations of the protests themselves. That sickens me.

I suppose there will be a little resistance to the idea that while many are waiting thier turn to be tested, it's a fairly wanted thing for most, they should have to go to the back of the queue again as thousands of rule breakers are rewarded with peace of mind.

Wouldn't offering people who had been in any crowded area a test be a positive thing? I thought people were crying gout for more testing, I know I would like one of offered.

Okay, I looked at durdle door pictures. My favourite one carried the quote 'about as socially distanced as sardines in a tin'

I can't claim that every single person taking part in the protests is doing it out of some form of altruism. But I genuinely do think that a lot of the protesters would rather be at the beach sunning themselves, and they believe they are doing something necessary by protesting. I don't think their motives are at all wrong, regardless of if the fallout isn't great.

So yes, I still believe that I would rather tests were offered to protesters than to sunbathers in crowded places. The latter are just selfish, there is no getting around that sadly.

Or to explain it in another way - if you took a stratified sample from each group and questioned why they did what they did, I believe the answer from protesters (even EDL ones) would be 'for justice/equality/change' and the answer from sunbathers would be 'Well I have as much right to be here as anyone else'.

Sin why are you concerned about the BLM protesters but not the far right ones?

Isn't that like asking why far right protesters aren't fighting for black equality? Everyone has their own opinions and beliefs 🤷‍♀️