Kirstie Allsopp is at it again

[peppapigisscottish]

She's tweeted (spelling.typos are hers):

I am NOT having a go at teachers, but how can we argue against schools going back when we’ve never even asked if teachers could infect kids with measles, mumps, meningitis etc.? Covid is NOT a denger to kids and is far less of a denger to teachers than many believe.

and yet this is her bio:

"All we can do at the moment is be kind, compassionate & sensible. When we can’t hug we shouldn’t judge."

Do they pose a threat to the staff? And/or do unvaccinated teachers/support staff pose a viral threat to kids?

I really don’t get why seemingly intelligent people cannot see the bigger picture. It is not about a threat to either children or staff (who are clearly expendable). The issue is that the virus will spread amongst children without too much fuss or bother and then be carried out into the wider community and we’re back to where we were in March pretty quickly. If the Government have us ram the kids in (and anyone who’s been in a 1000 pupil plus high school knows there is no getting away from contact), there is no doubt it will spread.

And before anyone says the NHS can cope. Quite clearly, that would not have been the case if the virus had been left to run amuck amongst us unchecked. We’ve been at home for months now and there are still hundreds of new infections everyday (not all community, of course) and the antibody testing is suggesting 7% have had it. There is clearly a long way to go to herd immunity. Now, it might be the case that some of us will never get it due to some kind of natural immunity but at the moment that is still very much an unknown quantity.

I am no fan of the Government and as a teacher, the lack of direction has been nothing short of a farce. But just opening schools isn’t the answer right now.

mbosnz Thu 18-Jun-20 19:39:21
Didn't she and her husband lead the charge of the overprivileged to their holiday homes - and he was positive for Covid?
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They isolated at their other home, didn't get up close and personal with anyone outside of the family. Plenty of others did too early on.

@HollowTalk

Very cruel to comment on Kirstie's spelling, given that she's dyslexic.

Perhaps they didn't know.

I didn't, until this thread.

Wonder how her children would get to school if they are in their second home

With all her 'amazing' skills she could decopatch her mouth shut. Oh dear.

I think she’s absolutely right. Denger or not.

Howaboutanewname..I agree with you. We home ed...however if we did not I would be extremely reluctant for son to go to school at the moment (I am a nurse).

She’s entitled to her opinion regardless of her area of expertise, just like everyone else on Twitter. Or MN for that matter. I’m pretty sure not everyone on here is in the medical profession either.

It is not about a threat to either children or staff (who are clearly expendable). The issue is that the virus will spread amongst children without too much fuss or bother and then be carried out into the wider community and we’re back to where we were in March pretty quickly.

Because mounting evidence with track and trace studies show that children just don't seem to transmit it. Possibly not enough viral load or something.

Perhaps they didn't know.

I didn't, until this thread.

It was fairly obvious. Then there were those who couldn't be arsed to read the whole thread and continued to mock her spelling.

I’m scared to go back. I am not alone. I have asthma and some other health problems. At the beginning a Headteacher died from it. It shocked the staff, parents and children. Some other staff have died.I will probably resign because my kids are begging me not to go.I am near retirement age which is another factor. I realise it is difficult for parents but I think it would have been better to wait till September.

Gosh, lots of people are really showing themselves up by commenting on someone’s spelling. Make you feel good to make fun of someone dyslexic does it?

She’s right. The baby didn’t die of coronavirus, coronavirus was listed as a secondary factor. We are massively affecting a whole generation of children by keeping schools closed yet Primark and zoos etc are open!

Interesting that Kirsty says children are the real victims in all this. (Several tweets down.)

Not the elderly who died in droves, then? They must just have had a victim mindset, I suppose. 🤷🏼

Buzzfrightyears, I am perpetually surprised by people who apparently fail to grasp the difference between popping in and out of a shop or strolling round an outdoor attraction and being shut inside cheek by jowl for six or seven hours.

What is it you don't get about how schools work? Did you never sit in an ordinary classroom as a child?

It's an odd tweet as children are vaccinated against those illnesses.

When I was at school, they weren't and if we had measles, mumps, german measles etc, we had to stay off school and quarantine at home. It doesn't stop the disease, it just reduces the speed and extent of spread until it fizzles out in that area. So it is a way of keeping it managed. Parents were used to it as they had grown up with worse diseases like polio.

However, it is not possible to keep all children off school until the disease has vanished because, until there is a vaccine, it will pop up here and there amongst people without immunity, and possibly won't ever go away.

Children need their education.

@AllPlayedOut

The baby did not die of Covid. Maternal Covid-19 was a secondary factor.

"The primary cause of death was listed as severe hypoxic ischaemic encephalopathy, where the brain is starved of blood and oxygen.
"Maternal COVID-19 was listed as a secondary cause."

It was the three day old baby who died in May who died from severe hypoxic ischemic encephalopathy, it was easy to get mixed up as there weren't any details for the thirteen day old baby. Their poor families, it's heartbreaking.

"It has previously been reported that a three-day-old baby died in hospital in Bridgend, south Wales, in May after his mother contracted coronavirus. An inquest heard Coolio Carl Justin Morgan died after his mother tested positive for the disease before giving birth. The primary cause of death was given as severe hypoxic ischemic encephalopathy, meaning the brain was starved of blood and oxygen. Maternal Covid-19 was listed as a secondary cause of death"

www.theguardian.com/society/2020/jun/18/covid-19-13-day-old-baby-becomes-one-of-englands-youngest-victims

Does Kirstie actually realise there is a vaccine for measles and mumps?

I’m a nurse, so I’m fairly sure I understand more about the corona pandemic than you, nearlygranny. Mounting evidence is suggesting that children are not a risk: not to themselves and not as spreaders.
If that’s not enough evidence for you then perhaps read www.rcpch.ac.uk/sites/default/files/2020-06/open_letter_re_schools_reopening_2020-06-17.pdf

HTH

Sorry; that should say I understand more about the corona pandemic than you think

I wasn’t claiming to know more than anyone else!

She's an absolute dick .
And , according to PopBitch , she and Dominic Cummings are intimately accquainted 😳😳😳

@Bitchinabonnet

She's an absolute dick . And , according to PopBitch , she and Dominic Cummings are intimately accquainted 😳😳😳

That’s a nasty image!

@Buzzfrightyears

I’m a nurse, so I’m fairly sure I understand more about the corona pandemic than you, nearlygranny. Mounting evidence is suggesting that children are not a risk: not to themselves and not as spreaders. If that’s not enough evidence for you then perhaps read www.rcpch.ac.uk/sites/default/files/2020-06/open_letter_re_schools_reopening_2020-06-17.pdf

HTH

Well yes, but it’s not just children who are in schools is it?

Surprised. I thought she was smarter.

They isolated at their other home, didn't get up close and personal with anyone outside of the family. Plenty of others did too early on.

Didn't make it OK. One rule for them, one rule for the rest of us apparently. I wasn't allowed (still not allowed) to go to my 'other home', even if I plan to not get up close and personal with anyone outside my family.

She went after lockdown and with a positive member of her family. Not OK. Also she's a hideous Tory. Also she makes dreadful stuff out of tatt. As if she has decorations in her house made of tin foil. She's horrible. This hasn't helped my opinion of her.

she and Dominic Cummings are intimately accquainted

No surprise whatsoever. Just another person who thinks they are better than us plebs.

Surprised. I thought she was smarter.

Me too.