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To be feed up with school telling me what to do and how to do it?

284 replies

ivykaty44 · 24/09/2007 16:38

Had a letter home from my dd's school last week telling me that they would be sending a booklet home telling me what I should be giving my dd for her packed lunch. I do know how to make a healthy pack lunch, including three portions of fruit each day in the pack lunch.

This week they send me a letter telling me that it is tantamount to being a criminal if I so much as dare to even think about taking my dd out of school during term time - I havn't even asked (standard letter to take home)and my child may be excluded from school if I go on holiday in term time.

The letter really does seem to have this attitude of "we have the power to make you" and I really don't like it I am not a child, I can look after my dd and give her healthy food and take her on holiday during school closures. I just want them to leave me alone and get on with teaching my dd........ rant over

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TellusMater · 24/09/2007 18:04

Sorry mimi - I didn't mean to offend you. But if you think the risks are exaggerated then look on some of the allergy threads.

mimi03 · 24/09/2007 18:05

ok..... but that is up to the parent and the kid to sort out....not really for everyone else to have to run around....like eleusis said what if my kid was allergic to plastic/milk/air?

mimi03 · 24/09/2007 18:06

no no i am genuanlly ignorant to this kinda thing and interested to find out what the deal is

TellusMater · 24/09/2007 18:06

Apple crumble and custard, for a primary age child, is not crap...

But yes, I agree that nutritional standards of school meals should be high. However, I believe that also caused a bit of a backlash...

fireflyfairy2 · 24/09/2007 18:06

Hey Mimi, did they teach you how to write long hand at school, or just text speak?

TellusMater · 24/09/2007 18:07

But if your child has nut traces on their hands, and they touch a nut-allergic child they are putting them at risk. I don't understand the opposition to this one.

mimi03 · 24/09/2007 18:07

sorry had a glass of wine... i have a Phd u kno

eleusis · 24/09/2007 18:08

I'm not suggesting that a nut allergy isn't serious. But, pointing out that it's the only allergy that gets any attention at all. So it seems a bit OTT.

Does anyone know, for allergy purposes are seeds in the nut category? I aim to be a good sheep and follow the rules -- even if I disagree with them. So, protein sources will be a bit of a challenge for me.

PandaG · 24/09/2007 18:10

some nut allergic folk are allergic to seeds too, think it would be worth you checking at school.

wrt milk allergy, please correct me if I am wrong, but this doesn't result in anaphylaxis does it?

eleusis · 24/09/2007 18:10

Oh no, does this mean I can't send her with sandwiches on soya and linseed bread?

BTW, DD is in reception and does not go full time until Jan so I have a few months to work out what goes in the lunchbox.

TellusMater · 24/09/2007 18:11

I don't know about seeds. Ask on allergies. I think any allergy that lead to anaphylaxis would probably receive the same attention in a school TBH. There was a thread recently by a vegan regarding this.

NorthernRockCod · 24/09/2007 18:14

do you knwo what when you are involved int he managemnt of a school you think

"you utter wankers" whne you read posts lliek these.

the HOURs they spend trikng to do nice htings

teh CONITNNUAL slagging you get fom a lot of parents

the SHIT parenting you see goign on every day

and you moan at the tone of a letter

GO

AND

GET

A#

LIFE

wheresthehamster · 24/09/2007 18:15

eleusis, if there was a possibility that your child could drop dead by being breathed on by a child who had drunk milk then milk WOULD be banned. These nut bans only take place if the school have a child with a severe nut allergy.

unknownrebelbang · 24/09/2007 18:15

psml Cod.

DH would say exactly the same thing.

oxocube · 24/09/2007 18:16

Have only read the first few posts but .... I teach 5 and 6 year olds. We ask the parents at the beginning of the school year to give their kids healthy lunches and snack and have asked that they are not sent in with chocolate, loads of sweet biscuits, sweets of any description or generally things packed with additives.

I know this might piss off some parents but its said for a reason - its really hard on the parents who make a big effort to provide fruit, veg sticks, plain crackers, wholemeal bread with healthy fillings etc (about 80% of my class) when a couple of kids bring in chocolate spread sandwiches and crisps. We even had a mum who forgot lunch so she brought in a Happy Meal, complete with toy! Its just not fair on the other kids. Also, I honestly believe that loads of refined sugar and additives have a detrimental effect on many kids' behaviour. Any parent who believes otherwise can come and take my class for an afternoon

Sweets, cookies, treats are all fine - I give them to my own kids - but at home, not at school.

NorthernRockCod · 24/09/2007 18:16

you lto who are moaning

GO ANS BECOME A GOVERNOR
do somehtign
stop slagging
imo you arent allowed to slag unless youd do the job yourslef
if not shaddaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaap

worzella · 24/09/2007 18:17

Hear , Hear COD . Couldn't agree more....

OrmIrian · 24/09/2007 18:17

sobernow - I 100% agree with you that there are some ridiculously bloody-minded parents who refuse to tow the line even on things that an idiot with one brain cell can see are totally neccessary. And when it comes to unauthorised absence it's simply a matter of a school enforcing national policy not being awkward for the sake of it. And if there is a uniform there is a uniform - simple as that - parents and pupils have to stick to it. But in areas such as what parents choose to put in their childrens' lunch boxes I don't see how a school can do anything but suggest better choices. It's not their job to tell parents what to do.

And good communications can pay dividends in building relations.

Hoever I do see that there probably is no pleasing everyone.

NorthernRockCod · 24/09/2007 18:18

ditto to folk who slag off cub leaders, football coaches, pta folk

fakring DIY

Sobernow · 24/09/2007 18:18

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Message withdrawn at poster's request.

OrmIrian · 24/09/2007 18:23

"imo you arent allowed to slag unless youd do the job yourslef "

Does that apply to all jobs then? If someone pisses you off at the GPs surgery do you thnik you should refrain from mentioning it because you aren't a GP yourself?

NorthernRockCod · 24/09/2007 18:24

no
any voluntary job

ivykaty( strangely absent form thread)
coudl become a goevrnor
yet she chosoes to slag instead

pointydog · 24/09/2007 18:27

orm, I'm with ya

and I am a teacher

NorthernRockCod · 24/09/2007 18:27

i coudl take a stehoscope just in case tho

Blandmum · 24/09/2007 18:29

this is how bad a nut allergy can be

All of this stuff is dictated to the school by the government, re the Healthy Schools Initiative.

You should see some of the shite some parent send in a lunch box. And when their child is then off their face on E numbers and sugar, I'm expected to teach them. And your child could be in the same class.

If you know all this stuff, bin the letter, but trust me, lots of parents don't know this stuff. And if the school does nothing they get it in the neck....remember the mother who blamed the school when her underage dd got pg.

We are damned if we do and damned if we don't.