Are you still wiping groceries?

[Lovely1a2b3c]

Just that! We have been wiping food shopping items as some of the family are vulnerable (not shielding) but wondering if it's time to stop?

I was doing so, and been super careful about hygiene.

During lockdown I’ve had 3 stomach bugs and 2 sore throats. How this has happened l do not know.

I’m never ill normally...,

I had what I thought was a cold, then we did some major hoovering behind the bed and I magically felt better...

Good grief, convince yourself that it's impossible if you wish, but don't expect people to change their actions because you think, on the basis of no supporting evidence, that it's impossible

In fact, that's just a way to convince people to take more extreme actions, if they feel that others are behaving irrationally and therefore could be taking risks and putting everyone at more risk then others become more risk adverse

If you somehow want validation that not washing things is ok, produce evidence yourself , rather than popping on the evidence to date

Or here you go. It's fine not to wash things if you don't want to.

My aunt has always washed her shopping. That's fine too

No, I stopped doing that some time ago. The tinned goods were making one hell of a racket when I tumble dried them.

I never did

The NHS produces huge amounts of mail. Do you think they're quarantining it? Nope, public health England and the WHO say it isn't a risk.

With this being the most researched virus globally for the last 6 months and not one study confirming the virus being transmitted by shopping or sitting on a seat, or touching a gate, it really doesn't match up with the measures people are taking when PHE, the WHO and government advice says they do not need to. Just wash your hands.

Nothing irrational about stating that.

The NHS produces huge amounts of mail. Do you think they're quarantining it? Nope

Why would they quarantine stuff they produce? It would be utterly pointless as they have no control over it once it's posted. What they do expect is that people will take sensible precautions once they've received it, e.g. use of a hand sanitiser after opening it. It's hardly the most onerous precaution to take.

Do what you like as long as it doesn't impinge on anyone else. Live and let live
Except it does.
We are hoping to go to a holiday cottage in August. Just another part of the UK, happy to socially distance while out and about. But a very long drive - if some people are insistent that soft furnishings are DEADLY and MUST BE REMOVED we will have to take everything we need in our already packed car. Especially impractical if it means we have to take duvets and pillows.

If schools are told to clean everything and deep clean once a week, and have no soft toys or any non-washable materials - despite no evidence of transmission via these - then it means it's less practical for my DCs to have time in school, they get less time with their teachers (and their teachers are probably having to help clean, which is not their job) and the one who needs more comfort than average can't take his teddy (and all my friends' Reception DCs can't have teddies in their classroom).

@DuineArBith They produce AND receive huge amounts was my point. Do you think wards/community bases/GP surgeries are quaranting mail before opening it?

No. People just open it then wash their hands. Like always. Not hanging it on washing lines for the sun to 'sanitise' it, or opening it outside after quaranting it for days like many of the posts i've seen on MN. Because there is absolutely no reason to.

I thought the virus didn’t live long on fabric stuff?

I thought the virus didn’t live long on fabric stuff? depends what you mean by “long”. Wash it over 60 or 30/40 with bleach us what I read yesterday. Our school asks for clean clothes every day. Nurses and Drs pop their clothes in pillowslips like sacks before they go home and wash them.

My understanding was that shiny surfaces transmit better because the droplets off sneezes are more easily lifted onto your skin but that it also lived on paper/hair/cloth just won’t print into you so easily.

I never started wiping them

I wear a mask shopping and alcohol gel my hands and trolley before and after using and wash my hands after putting the shopping away but that's it. Some people have weird Covid shopping rituals

ive had covid, ive narrowed it down to 2 places i could of caught it from, work, (no one else has had it that im aware) and Tescos, went after work just before closing at the start of the pandemic for one item, toilet rolls it was when folks were bulk buying them and stores were empty. i got one packet and took it to the till. i passed 2 other people in store. So yes im still wiping everything down, yes its a pain, but i dont want it again it was quite frankly bloody horrendous.

Seems much more likely that you got it from someone else in the supermarket or an asymptomatic workmate.

My DH got it at the chemist’s. We didn’t even realise it was Covid for ages as he and my son started off with just sore throats and at the time that wasn’t being flagged as a main symptom.

My healthy 14yr old son was very ill and almost hospitalised with it. He has never been so sick in all his life.

Its increasingly difficult to make sense of any of this and decide on sensible behaviour. Very sorry for people who have had it.

@drspouse

I agree. People and businesses keep concocting ever more absurd measures with zero evidence because they need to be seen to ‘do’ something.

The teddy thing is ridiculous. How is a child’s teddy more of a risk than the actual child?!

[quote WinningEveryDay]@DuineArBith They produce AND receive huge amounts was my point. Do you think wards/community bases/GP surgeries are quaranting mail before opening it?

No. People just open it then wash their hands. Like always. Not hanging it on washing lines for the sun to 'sanitise' it, or opening it outside after quaranting it for days like many of the posts i've seen on MN. Because there is absolutely no reason to.[/quote]
This. My post was in relation to people who seem to think that paper is magically immune to coronavirus. The point is that you can acknowledge that it isn't, and take really simply precautions to deal with it.