Are you still wiping groceries?

[Lovely1a2b3c]

Just that! We have been wiping food shopping items as some of the family are vulnerable (not shielding) but wondering if it's time to stop?

Yes I still am. I have always wiped the tins anyway. as they are often dusty. Might be from the cardboard they are stored in at the shops.

I never have. I have food delivered. I bring it in, wash hands. Unpack it, wash hands. Put it away, wash hands. I quarantine the carrier bags in the garage and would t drink straight from a can but that’s about it 😊

Never did and never will. I'm a nurse and couldn't name a single colleague that does either.

@JinglingHellsBells

I find it quite offensive that people here imply us shopping-wipers are somehow 'messed up in the head' or have OCD!

I fall into the older age group. DH had a very serious health issue last year and major surgery, which, although he's not on the vulnerable list, means he definitely does not need to get Covid if we can help it.

If you are young, under 40 perhaps, fit and not overweight, you can perhaps afford to be a bit blase.

We can't.

I think you are a little bit. Sorry.

No, because I’ve had the flu. I haven’t had Covid, and given that I don’t know how it might affect me, caution seems warranted. People who think this is anything like the flu shouldn’t be let anywhere near a simile.

But there are different strains of flu every year. Some are relatively mild, some are not. Some people can go years without catching flu, then end up in hospital with pneumonia and off work for weeks. Just because you've had flu once, doesn't mean the next time you get it, your body will react in the same way.

If you wash your shopping and quarantine your post because you don't want to catch COVID, then surely you should be doing the same all year around in case you catch norovirus or flu - both of which can also kill you?

@JinglingHellsBells

I find it quite offensive that people here imply us shopping-wipers are somehow 'messed up in the head' or have OCD!

I fall into the older age group. DH had a very serious health issue last year and major surgery, which, although he's not on the vulnerable list, means he definitely does not need to get Covid if we can help it.

If you are young, under 40 perhaps, fit and not overweight, you can perhaps afford to be a bit blase.

We can't.

Most supermarket workers are over 50, overweight and unfit (or they are in the one I work in!).

We haven't caught it 'off surfaces' despite several of our customers having Covid, and being in the shop just before testing positive.

@JinglingHellsBells

The thing is, there is still a risk it appears from the virus being on packaging and surfaces.

I had a dental appt right at the start of lockdown at a very good dentists, and all the magazines were removed. There was nothing around the waiting area that anyone might touch and then another person touch.

I had to sanitise my hands on arrival and I did the same after using the key pad for payment.

I genuinely don't understand people not cleaning packaging.

It's also illogical to say you are fine, don't clean your shopping and have not had the virus.
You may have had it and been asymptomatic.

I know people who have had the virus, never mixed with anyone other than their partner, never been anywhere outside other than for a walk in the country, for 12 weeks and STILL got Covid. The only way was through deliveries of food and other things.

The key part of that statement is 'never mixed with anyone other than their partner....

Who has been...where?

So many people think that they know exactly where their partner is at all times - just look at the 'He cheated on me' posts on the Relationship board. Their 'he's been in isolation with me all the time' partner, who is quietly popping to the shop for 20 fags and having a chat with his old mate on the way back....and then completely forgetting about it and swearing blind that they've never been anywhere.

I've heard about this happening quite a few times.

I genuinely don't understand people not cleaning packaging.

Maybe because they take their advice and accordingly evaluate the risk based on guidance from the WHO and not nutters on mumsnet.

Nope, never done it, and none of us have caught C19 in the last 3 months. If you have vulnerable people to contact maybe should JIC, but honestly it doesn't seem as though people are very likely to catch it form just something they touch that isn't likely to have been extensively manhandled by someone else.

I wash my hands before I go and when I come back in

jingle I do not believe you personally know several people whose household locked down strictly who caught covid late into the lockdown. That is a ridiculous thing to claim. If it were that easily spread then the R number everywhere would be sky high.

Somebody somewhere is telling you porkies.

Or maybe your anxiety is making you interpret events catastrophically.

Not one of my medical colleagues that work in a hospital has caught Covid from surfaces
Barely any have caught covid anyway
Not one of them washes or quarantines anything
They use good hand hygiene, distance appropriately and get on with their lives
And they take guidance from other professionals not loons on social media

If you are vulnerable and have time, then why not. I did it a couple of times but DH doesn't and I cba having a new chore to do. He is slightly vulnerable, I'm not, so I decided its his look out.

All these people who have apparently caught CV from shopping deliveries need to inform their governments and the WHO since there have been no confirmed cases of transmission from shopping or post worldwide...

Who has the time to disinfect the shopping?????

We get nearly all our food from Ocado. It isn’t picked from a store and largely done mechanically so the number of people handling my items before me is small.

Just before lockdown the biggest risk factors to our family were travelling daily to and front central London on hugely crowded tube trains. Compared to that I’m willing to take the risk on Ocado without washing it.

Not one of my medical colleagues that work in a hospital has caught Covid from surfaces
Barely any have caught covid anyway

Have they had antibody tests yet? My sister thought this, so did those she worked with as none of them had had to go off work during the peak with syptoms and all had felt fine, though stressed. When they were all tested, turned out over half of them had antibodies, so over half had caught it withut ven knowing so! Obviously I don't know about different hospitals, but from reading posts of NHS staf, this seems almost universal, that 50% or so of frontline staff are testing positive for antibodies.

All these people who have apparently caught CV from shopping deliveries need to inform their governments and the WHO since there have been no confirmed cases of transmission from shopping or post worldwide...

This

I know people who have had the virus, never mixed with anyone other than their partner, never been anywhere outside other than for a walk in the country, for 12 weeks and STILL got Covid. The only way was through deliveries of food and other thing

I keep reading that on here and I think it's complete nonsense. Either they, or a family member, have been out at some point - or they had something other than covid.

I genuinely don't understand people not cleaning packaging

Because we have different attitudes to risk.

In the same way that some people would never ride a bike without a cycle helmet on, and others would (to reference another currently active thread).

And this:

Just before lockdown the biggest risk factors to our family were travelling daily to and front central London on hugely crowded tube trains. Compared to that I’m willing to take the risk on Ocado without washing it

It is the same for us, DH was commuting to London daily, I was going weekly.

I find it quite odd that the officials say there has not been any cases of that, but a lot of people apparently known multiple people its happened too. Somethings off there somewhere.

Mind that said, the officials do seem to currently be in 'nothing to worry about' mode, to get economies moving again I guess.

I don't know what to think, as 'advice' seems to change daily at the moment.

@zingally

I never did.

(thought about at the start, certainly, but the science seemed wishy-washy as to whether it actually made a difference)

I wash my hands as soon as I get in. Unpack and put away the shopping, but the shopping bags away, then wash my hands again.

Same here. That’s what I’ve been doing for the last 13 weeks too.

I saw someone say they only bought prepackaged fruit and veg - what happened to it before it was packed?

@BatShite

Not one of my medical colleagues that work in a hospital has caught Covid from surfaces Barely any have caught covid anyway

Have they had antibody tests yet? My sister thought this, so did those she worked with as none of them had had to go off work during the peak with syptoms and all had felt fine, though stressed. When they were all tested, turned out over half of them had antibodies, so over half had caught it withut ven knowing so! Obviously I don't know about different hospitals, but from reading posts of NHS staf, this seems almost universal, that 50% or so of frontline staff are testing positive for antibodies.

But they may have antibodies without having had Covid. You can, I think (and I'm not medical, so don't quote me) have antibodies without having actually had the illness.

And, since every other thread keeps screaming that YOU DON'T GET ANTIBODIES TO COVID AND WE ARE ALL GOING TO GET IT AND DIE!!! chances are the antibody tests wouldn't prove anything anyway, if this is true (which I don't actually believe).

I suppose. I guess more will be know when testing is more widespread. I have a feeling it will turn out NHS staff who have antibodies are way above that of the general public though.

Who are all these people who have caught Covid from their shopping? Can we have names and some sort of evidence? Otherwise I think people are making up stories.