To tell teachers bashers to go and complain to their own fucking schools

[Frozenfan2019]

Aibu to be fed up to the back teeth of ignorant comments like "do your job like everyone else" and " it's your vocation" aimed at all and any teachers who happen to be on a thread. If you have a problem with the teaching provided by your own school contact them. People commenting have no idea of the workload that the people they are trolling online might be struggling with. It's bullying plain and simple and wouldn't be allowed to be aimed at other groups.

Do you honestly believe that every single teacher in the UK is lazy? If not why not contact YOUR school about the issues you have with YOUR child's teacher instead of starting yet another general teacher bashing thread.

As a teacher on here I have to say I have never been more demotivated. I work hard for my kids at school while also homeschooling my own three like so many of us. How dare you make me feel like I am failing because you have an issues, unfounded in some cases I am sure, with your school?

They are your children take some responsibility, contact the school if you have concerns and accept that most teachers are fired for the children they each but we don't make many of the decisions. They are made at a much higher level.

We don't know either gazebo : it's new to us,too! There is no evidence or past precedent. Many teachers who are outstanding in the classroom are all at sea with the changes and will take a while to adjust.

the assumption that 100% live lessons are best is a difficult one to interrogate, as discussed in the Twitter thread I posted.

Independent learning over the last few years has been heralded as making a real difference to children (especially teenagers) and yet what some people (school leaders, some politicians and many parents) think is better now is 100% passive spoon feeding. Personally, I worry about excessive screen time.

There are also three teachers leaving my department (0f 13 teachers) who are not being replaced, so workload will increase. teaching really is not a piece of piss.

Teachers thrive on routine generally as a group, and the lack of certainty and leadership is very troubling.

GazeboParty

I have asked the same question of posters that want "good remote learning" provision and have been called some interesting names but other than "live" lessons which are not good for everyone the silence has been deafening.

As a profession you are not above reproach, and if you can not take any level of criticism, then maybe you are in the wrong career.

I agree with this, loads of career choices are criticised on here, the fact is many many children are not being educated adequately or even educated at all and parents simply and rightly are unhappy with the educational provisions or lack of educational provisions given.

Most parents don’t care if it’s school management/ council or governments its to blame, the fact is some children are not receiving even a basic education and whose at fault is not for the parents to manage.

That’s the schools/councils and governments to decide.

You may dislike some of the teacher “bashing” however it’s not going to change until schools/councils and governments fill their finger out their arses!!!

One again teachers are not above approach and frankly their has been some shocking teachers shown on here and I’ve witnessed in RL.

Even as a teacher you cannot speak for ALL teachers, or ALL councils, you can only simply speak of your own situation, the same with any profession, there the good, the bad and the bloody ugly.

Some teachers must be having a decent break: textile teachers, cookery, woodwork (I’m sure these subjects have different names now!) as opposed to the teachers of some subjects. DD’s school is running a full timetable and operating as if pupils were in class. The head is excellent.

As long as schools and teachers seem to be doing their best in unprecedented times, then I’m sure most parents feel satisfied. I really don’t think union leaders flexing their muscles are helping the cause. We all know they are just seizing an opportunity and feel they have achieved a strike by the back door. If coronavirus disappeared overnight they would be demanding that teachers are not safe and schools cannot reopen until the common cold or nits are eradicated.

IrmaFayLear
Some teachers must be having a decent break: textile teachers, cookery, woodwork (I’m sure these subjects have different names now!)

you would be wrong, The work has changed and I am having to completely rewrite schemes of work so that they fit only provision.
But the main sections of DT can still taught remotely through research, design tasks and even modelling.

So I am more than happy to tell you that you know nothing and your perception is entirely wrong.

IrmaFayLear

And Just FYI

The NEA dropped on the first of June so I have more than enough to keep me busy.

@frippEnos - Once again, from your perspective and experiences this is the case. We all have examples where this is not the case, as I mentioned, I have a teacher friend who has been clogging up my Strava feed with his 4 hour daily bike rides!

'So I am more than happy to tell you that you know nothing' - What a glorious condescending statement.

fromdownwest

'So I am more than happy to tell you that you know nothing' - What a glorious condescending statement.

If only that had been a response to your posts. But feel free to take it out of context.

I know it was in response to another poster, does not make it any less condescending.

fromdownwest

It is not condescending when the person have posted something that is untrue and is rubbish.

To OP and other teachers on this thread.

Please can you tell all schools to answer their fucking Emails.

Don't keep telling us as worried and concerned parents who are not happy with the very basic if that teaching our children are getting, to contact our schools when we have and they haven't even given a simple acknowledgement of receiving an Email let alone actually answering.

I'm sick of some teachers on here who seem to think that parents have no right to complain about the schools that their children go to, no one has given the name and shamed the school they are just airing their personally views and issues they are having.

*has not have

Fair enough - happy to be corrected.

Please can you tell all schools to answer their fucking Emails.

If coming from something like a hotmail account, often, school networks (which often they have little control over) filter them so they don’t appear in their inboxes.
Might be an idea to follow up with a phone call. Happens with other organisations too.

I am genuinely flummoxed. I have reread my post and cannot see why it is condescending.

Might be an idea to follow up with a phone call. Yep tried that couldn't leave a message as voicemail is fall.

I know this isn't all schools I can only go by the Primary school my child goes too.

Unfortunately the Primary school has been bad with communication, we have only had 3 emails/contact since this situation started, 1 about the closure, one after 6 weeks about providing paper copies of work and the last about the years going back.

Full not fall stupid phone,

My dc is getting online work from CDT and HE

you would be wrong

Only she isn’t wrong, and again you cannot speak for ALL teachers, I work closely with our local council.

A few of our teachers are volunteering at food banks, young people’s homes, St Johns ambulance etc... (directing visitors to hospitals to the correct depths while giving PPE)

We also have teachers doing home care due to staff shortage, so please while I understand your situation may differ you absolutely cannot speak for ALL teachers.

The assumption that staff who teach practical subjects are having a break is wrong as they don't only teach practically but can do written work as well.
I don't see how a 4 hour bike ride is incompatible with doing work. Working from home means being able to work at all times of the day which may be what he has done. He may have done nothing - but it won't be because of the bike ride

@Clutterbugsmum

Might be an idea to follow up with a phone call. Yep tried that couldn't leave a message as voicemail is fall.

I know this isn't all schools I can only go by the Primary school my child goes too.

Unfortunately the Primary school has been bad with communication, we have only had 3 emails/contact since this situation started, 1 about the closure, one after 6 weeks about providing paper copies of work and the last about the years going back.

That's dreadful @Clutterbugsmum. Our HT puts out a message on our app every Monday and Friday welcoming everyone to another school week and then wrapping it up on Friday. We still have online assemblies every week, pupils get birthday certificates put through their letterboxes, each teacher has an online group that they set/mark tasks on daily as well as sending a personal greeting every day and giving feedback/answering queries. Our app tends to have year specific info put on it every other day eg leavers hoodies, virtual sports day or new entrants. Every communication has all SLT email addresses at the foot of them. We still have stars of the week etc too. It's not difficult and staff want the contact with pupils and families as much as the families do. I phone specific pupils on a daily or weekly basis and I can't get the wee souls off the phone - often the phone gets passed around the whole household. Oh I could cry. I can only hope this shitshow is over before my school opens in August.

Sorry but my sympathy with teacher's unions is wearing thin.
We know from WHO 1 metre is sufficient for distancing.
It's not just the educational effect this will have on children, it's the mental and social issues. We've effectively told children school and socialising is dangerous, they could kill people if they do. The fear of God this will put into kids.
Some will just refuse school, I can see it with DD already. She has totally withdrawn from the world (13).
I sympathised to begin with but this is beyond a joke now. Your main purpose is to teach and you are basically being paid not to. A few scraps of work online is not what your wage is for.
I get those who are shielded can remain so but you're more likely to be hot by lightning than die of the virus. Enough is enough.

I’ve also email my ds1 teacher as he has badly broken his writing arm/wrist last week.

I’ve emailed everyday, his form tutor, his HOY and HT and his specific teacher involved, he can do most work but not written.

I’ve yet to receive a single reply or acknowledgement 😕

I’ve tried calling only to be told to email.

Can we maybe have a little less teacher martyrdom too.

Seems to be a disproportionate level of posting/coverage about how tough the job is. You definitely don't see a similar level of vocal complaining from other professions.