to be mildly amused by people complaining about the colour of the new passport

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Apparently it's not blue. Or at least, not the blue they remember.

www.express.co.uk/travel/articles/1296738/passport-uk-renewal-passports-brexit-blue-twitter-outrage

It never was really obviously blue, Just very very dark blue, almost black really.

And it's highly amusing that it's in the Daily Express. I am surprised this isn't the headline.

I maybe wouldn't travel to anywhere in the rest of Europe then because when someone from there finds out you're British, they are probably going to start laughing. That will be a worse reminder than the colour of a passport.

I'm sure. It's certainly something I will have to deal with.

I had all my old passports returned so still have the original dark blue one. I miss that the cover was a really stiff cardboard. I'm not outraged about it though.

Whether or not there is an issue with Northern Ireland, it is still a more interesting and potentially important conversation than the discussion around Scotland.

In my opinion anyway. If you don't see it that way, that's fine.

when someone from there finds out you're British, they are probably going to start laughing

Nah, I'm Scottish. I think I'll be fine.

Whether or not there is an issue with Northern Ireland, it is still a more interesting and potentially important conversation than the discussion around Scotland.

I didn't say otherwise. If there is a problem surrounding the passports for NI then yes, of course that's more important than what someone who is Scottish chooses to call themselves, but I wasn't putting one against the other. I was pointing out there is no issue at this point.

In my opinion anyway. If you don't see it that way, that's fin

Of course it's fine! There is no issue with NI passports. All the posters discussing something that hasn't happened is quite odd, almost as odd as you laughing and picking me up for pointing it out.

I didn't laugh at you. I laughed at the fact that the thing you picked up on wasn't that I was saying the NI issue was more interesting (which you now seem to be agreeing with), but that I worded it in such a way to imply there was an issue when we don't know that there is one.

AND I apologised at how it came across.

I really don't know what else I need to do. So I'm out.

The great advantage of the old style dark blue passports was that they showed the holder's name so when you're scrabbling about in the passport-and-other-stuff drawer at the last minute, you can see at a glance which is the passport you want, without opening the whole family's passports to make sure you don't turn up at the airport with your 3-year-old's.

Genuinely can't see why people care. We've always had ours in different coloured passport holders just to make handing them out simpler at the airport. My passport has been a light pink colour since I was 8 and will continue to be so, apart from the thirty seconds it takes to have it checked (you have to remove the cover for that).

the main thing is the size hasn't changed, the old style ones were really awkward. you could always tell a British gappie then by their upright posture due to the giant passport in their moneybelt. Easier when they went to the current size as they fit in a pocket.

zero stuffs given here about passport colour, mobile phone roaming, pet passports (leave the bloody things in kennels) or the alleged new need for travel insurance, (you always needed it) which seem to be the main millenial worries about brexit.

MN is a site of absolutes and extremes, so the EU is either totally good or totally bad. Moderates or inbetween views not welcome.

the main thing is the size hasn't changed, the old style ones were really awkward. you could always tell a British gappie then by their upright posture due to the giant passport in their moneybelt. Easier when they went to the current size as they fit in a pocket.

That's because the UK ceded sovereignty over passport design to an international treaty which standardized passport size and layout. In fact the only thing it didn't state was the color - which was up to the issuing country. Anyone who thinks we needed to do anything other than change the ink at the printers to get a different color passport was conned, or is so slow they really shouldn't be allowed anything sharp. Either way, I wouldn't want them on my pub quiz team.

Mine arrived yesterday (despite being sent pre-lockdown) and it's burgundy.

TheThingWithFeathers It doesn’t matter whether or not you identify as British, you are British.

I'm a citizen of the UK. I am not British.

Surely people in NI who object to having a British passport will take an Irish one instead...?

@TheThingWithFeathers

TheThingWithFeathers It doesn’t matter whether or not you identify as British, you are British.

I'm a citizen of the UK. I am not British.

There's no such thing as UKish. The term is British, even for those in NI who aren't from GB.

So, if Scotland issued its own passports and you would say "Scottish Passport" on the front, then "British Passport" is correct. If you would say "Scotland Passport" then yes, it should say "UK passport". But you wouldn't.

@MyGhastIsFlabbered when did you apply for your passport? How long ago? I’ve been needing to do mine desperately but the portal has been shut for a a few weeks now for new applications/renewals unless it’s for emergency. I should have applied back at the beginning of April when it was still open ☹️

The blue one is going to embarrass me every time I hand it over in a EU country.

The majority of EU countries have blue passports anyway. We never actually needed to switch to burgundy, we could have carried on using blue.

@TheThingWithFeathers

TheThingWithFeathers It doesn’t matter whether or not you identify as British, you are British.

I'm a citizen of the UK. I am not British.

If you look on the photo page of your passport it says "British citizen" under nationality though, doesn't it?

That's really why it says British Passport on the front. It's a passport belonging to a British citizen.

It is rather amusing but rather sad at the same time.

That's really why it says British Passport on the front. It's a passport belonging to a British citizen

You don't have to be a British citizen to hold a British passport.

@ChangeThePassword

That's really why it says British Passport on the front. It's a passport belonging to a British citizen

You don't have to be a British citizen to hold a British passport.

Well, British Citizen, a British Overseas Territories Citizen or a few of historical categories that will disappear in time as the people who hold them die.

But I was trying to say that it isn't really to do with the country, but the citizenship.

I shall be putting mine in a burgundy cover! 😂

When my passport is renewed, I'm getting a cover with a skull on it. Or maybe a dragon.... I'm easily amused, sometimes.

@TheThingWithFeathers

TheThingWithFeathers It doesn’t matter whether or not you identify as British, you are British.

I'm a citizen of the UK. I am not British.

Yes you are. It even says you’re a British citizen on your passport.

You can’t pretend you aren’t British just because you don’t want to be. Your opinion doesn’t change the facts.

@dragononflye I applied sometime in March, about a week before lockdown!

You sound really bitter about Scottish being a thing, and I can't quite fathom why.
Perhaps a reaction to the pearl-clutchers who had to get the smelling salts out when they saw that the passports were stamped "British Passport".