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Why are ASDA normalising paedophilia and Child Abuse?

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Sunkisses · 16/06/2020 08:02

Is it OK for ASDA to send parents emails linking to an organisation that normalises paedophilia with red flag phrases such as "love has no age", and recommending books for children that contain explicit descriptions of child sex abuse? Why are they doing this? Are ASDA experts in home schooling and safeguarding? More details in this excellent thread by Safe Schools Alliance: twitter.com/SafeSchools_UK/status/1272638132589035520

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Shockedandbefuddled · 17/06/2020 21:41

I would also suggest googling Diversity Role Models and contacting all the patrons of the charity. It’s quite an interesting list and I’m not sure they would all agree with this content.

ShinyFootball · 17/06/2020 21:50

Sorry not read the whole thread just the first 100 posts or so!

I recognise the text linked, it's from a book written by a transgender woman.

I've had a hunt around Asda website and can't find anything about resources for schools.

Have they produced some, or have they partner with the existing group that carries these materials?

I'm just trying to follow it all through.

Apologies if this has already been asked.

ShinyFootball · 17/06/2020 21:53

Poking around diversity role models and looked at secondary resources to hunt down the pack.

Never forget the bottom line...

Why are ASDA normalising paedophilia and Child Abuse?
Melroses · 17/06/2020 21:55

I have just spent ages online looking at DRM, and what I can about what they do and the materials they use, then I found this on twitter:

www.transgendertrend.com/diversity-role-models-conformity-new-ideology/

and it totally agrees with everything I have found, only it is well written with references.

Melroses · 17/06/2020 21:56

@ShinyFootball

Poking around diversity role models and looked at secondary resources to hunt down the pack.

Never forget the bottom line...

Sometimes they offer a few free places on Twitter - sweetener.
LillianBland · 17/06/2020 22:23

I have been discussing these so called learning materials with my lad, who is so woke, he doesn’t recognise the sexism staring him in the face. I didn’t tell him where it has came from and he was absolutely horrified and disgusted with the dice and the story of the six year old. I still haven’t told him who is behind it, because the wokeness would kick in and he’d start saying that it was obviously “a mistake, you’ve misunderstood, etc” 🙄 These young people are so entrenched in the competitive wokeness, they remind of the three ‘wise’ monkeys. Actually, there’s a fourth monkey in the original and that money would fit in well too.

Hopefully he’ll google it and a bit of reality will drip into his brain.

IfNotNowThenWhen2 · 17/06/2020 22:38

Fucking Hell.
Some brilliant posts on here.
Even 2 years ago I would have dismissed anyone claiming that paedophiles have infiltrated the highest levels of government, big business, charities and local authorities as a wacko nutjob. It gives me a sick feeling right in my guts now I am considering that is almost certainly the case.
It's clever. Trojan-Horse the "love has no age" in with the LGBTQI+ package, brush off the thousands of worried women as a bunch of prudish Karens and get access to groom every child in the country.
In the end though, there are a lot of us women. Safeguarding ONLY happens because women demand it, so we need to keep gunning for every organisation that lets this cancer in.
I have donated 20 quid to safeschoolsallianceuk.net/donate/
It's what I could afford, but if we all do it, if we all email Asda, and our councils, our MPs, newspapers, we have power.
Strength in numbers.

Ps Bye Asda

SarahTancredi · 17/06/2020 22:58

So if is nothing sinister and a few silly mums just looked at it in isolation and miss understood with our inferior mummy brains Hmm why are they denying they have anything to do with it, and why did DR remove the book list?

Admission of guilt if I ever saw it

They all just got cocky with the glitter invisibility cloak.

ThatLockdownLyfe · 17/06/2020 22:59

Trojan Horse is right.

Sickening

ShinyFootball · 17/06/2020 23:01

But are there links?

I can't see the DRM materials without paying.

Do Asda know?

The text is from a book I have seen flagged before on Fwr in different contexts.

Is there a link direct to Asda confirmed website or social media with love doesn't have an age or whatever that PIE thing is?

I am ready to froth but I'd like to be sure there's no misinformation.

ShinyFootball · 17/06/2020 23:03

Just seen that no one has solid proof. A retweet is not proof either.

Anyone?

If everyone gets angry about something that is not true then that's not good.

Can anyone show me anything from Asda with the love knows no age slogan, for eg?

DuDuDuLangaLangaBingBong · 17/06/2020 23:03

Asda sent the DRM PDF out as an email newsletter, (presumably to anyone they have flagged in their customer database as having children in their household).

DuDuDuLangaLangaBingBong · 17/06/2020 23:05

Asda have made a (non satisfactory) public comment on it, as reported here:

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.mylondon.news/whats-on/family-kids-news/mums-furious-asda-education-pack-18439255.amp

DuDuDuLangaLangaBingBong · 17/06/2020 23:07

An Asda spokesperson said: "The home learning packs are produced by our charity partner Diversity Role Models as part of the work they do in schools to encourage young people to challenge stereotypes and embrace diversity."

(From the link posted above)

ThatLockdownLyfe · 17/06/2020 23:10

I downloaded it this morning when the thread first popped up. No doubt it's been removed now.

Can confirm it did indeed say the things alleged.

I know it is difficult to believe and no one wants to believe it.

But this shit is real and it's not going away until it gets exposed and enough people start making a fuss.

Ninkanink · 17/06/2020 23:11

@ShinyFootball you can find the relevant proof in regards to material endorsed by and linked to by ASDA for yourself, on this very thread. You can also find evidence as to contents of relevant packs created by and supplied by their ‘charity partner’ on this thread.

HTH.

ShinyFootball · 17/06/2020 23:24

I see Twitter and links but not via Asda or with their branding, nor direct from the DRM website.

I have read the whole thread.

I am concerned about misinformation on the net. The reason this made me wonder was because I have seen the passage before on here, in a different context. It may be that the author have permission for their experiences to be printed in the secondary school pack. But I would like to see for myself.

If it is the case that the dodgy stuff is all DRM and Asda have partnered with them, chances are Asda have not gone through all the stuff. In which case pointing it out to Asda should hopefully have them backing away. But screenshots and Twitter without the branding are not good enough. The comments on one of the Twitter threads linked asks the same questions.

I have seen loads of examples of charities, public services and companies supporting quite bonkers stuff. But I want to see proof. Or I am just assuming the worst because it fits my political view, which is a big problem with a lot going on in the world at the moment.

Melroses · 17/06/2020 23:51

The book has been looked at already on MN. That is how we know what it is like and why it was noticeable on the reading list of the Homeschool Pack downloaded from the Asda e-mail.

DRM are an organisation that are supposed to be providing materials, workshops and training for schools on bullying but it is hard to find their materials. What has been seen is very much the same as that of other organisations, including the infamous much ridiculed and discredited 'gender unicorn'.

Melroses · 17/06/2020 23:55

Most of the staff seem to have a background in campaigning demonstrating and charities but not school, education or safeguarding.

DuDuDuLangaLangaBingBong · 17/06/2020 23:59

It may be that the author have permission for their experiences to be printed in the secondary school pack. But I would like to see for myself.

The pack recommended the book. Screen shots are on this thread.

ShinyFootball · 18/06/2020 00:13

So Asda partnered with DRM.

DRM recommends the book.

The way it's being presented is that the extract from the book is in the secondary pack.

I've still not seen anything Asda branded that says love has no age limit.

I want to see for myself that this is all as reported.

And I was on the original thread about the book.
I've been here 13 years. I was involved in the conversations about creating Fwr. I met dittany irl years ago attending a radfem meet where we had to get the meeting address last minute. Due to threats from tras. I met other mners in s cafe first. That was maybe 6 years ago. Those were the days!

I just want a direct source rather than eg screenshots of a book that I have seen before, implied as being reproduced in an Asda approved pack.

ShinyFootball · 18/06/2020 00:25

I've found the original email from Asda.

It doesn't say love knows no age etc

It doesn't contain a link to any pack or suggest parents download it

I had a look at DRM site and you have to pay for school packs.

The home school thing, I looked at one of them. There were a couple of bits that were not great (pic of Marsha Johnson and we all know he wasn't there) but a skim showed nothing particularly outrageous.

Safe schools said 'We have been contacted by many parents expressing concerns regarding this recent email from
@Georgeatasda
.
@asda
are a supermarket, should they be recommending home learning packs?'

They don't. The mailshot is very bland. The unpaid material on DRM is pretty bland.

If anyone can point to other things (Asda promoting their home learning pack or saying love has no age etc) then please post rather than saying oh it's all on the thread. I have read the thread twice now. I can't find them.

Aesopfable · 18/06/2020 01:04

You are too late. If you read the thread you would know they changed it.

ShinyFootball · 18/06/2020 01:33

Who changed what?

The email from Asda is screnshotted. Bland.

I can't imagine that DRM weren't charging for schools resource packs before.

I haven't seen a screenshot of the home school thing, unless I've missed it. People have referred to the primary and secondary (paid for) packs.

???

I am more than happy to get angry, but I see no real proof. Not like GG, swim England, youth hostels, prisons, mixed sex wards and the lies, etc.

I want to see the proof. Original screenshots saying look at the homeschooling pack or love knows no age with their branding.

GC stance has more than enough to back it up without following this Twitter is proof, 3 steps down the line there's this book, thing.

Keep focused on the obvious stuff that is absolutely indisputably awful. And illogical. There is plenty.

The last thing we need is to be found to be swallowing a partial truth, it will be easy to paint women on here as having an axe to grind, and the public love that stuff. Oh it's xyz women again, we can ignore that.

People keep saying, read the thread, all there. Now. Too late it's gone. Nothing on the net is gone. What has changed? I can see the George email, not v exciting. Where is the proof?

ShinyFootball · 18/06/2020 01:46

I looked at the pdf that was the original.

It does indeed say love has no age limit.

In context, they are talking about love generally.
In families
Between friends
Loving pop stars or actors (as in 'i love bon Jovi! (Shows age)
Love in blended families
All sorts of love

Yes the phrase is super PIE.
in the context of the whole document, it is not out of line.

Has anyone read the whole document, and can tell me why you think this is out of line, in the context it is used?

Seriously picking that one phrase out and shouting PIE seems off. The link to that book seems tenuous, what's it called again so I can see if it's on that doc.

I thought safeschools were ok but this makes me really uncomfortable.

Someone show me properly where the problem is and I will get angry. But this feels off.

There are enough examples of all sorts of orgs breaking the equality act etc. This all feels pretty tenuous and it's making me really uncomfortable.