School Staff. How do you feel about summer schools?

[Witchcraftandhokum]

Just watched an ex-Ofsted inspector on BBC Breakfast talk about how important summer schools will be and how they should be staffed by the same teachers students have normally.

This hasn't been mentioned in our school yet but I really don't know how it will be managed. I can't imagine a lot of staff will be happy to give up their holidays. In our school a good number of the middle leaders and TA's salaries are pro-rata'd to term time only. I've worked full-time from home so it's not like I've been on holiday since March.

How would you feel about being asked to work?

@changeofheart1234567

That is hilarious! But brilliant news for me, when can I take these mythical paid holiday days?!

No problem, let’s hope you don’t need any health care before September then!

@changeofheart1234567

Not read the full thread but schools have given compensatory holiday to all staff who worked during school holidays. So they’ve just been rescheduled, not lost. Which is more than the rest of us who have had on holiday at all, either from school or work.

Not for staff in our school.

Most in-school have had has been additional PPA time.

Once again, not all schools are the same.

Typhoid, can you not access key worker childcare?

@Thanosatemthamster

Typhoid, can you not access key worker childcare?

Not sure it’s running over summer?

@TyphoidMary2020 it's not true that NHS leave has been banned until
March 2021. Some individual departments may have set their own rules, but it's certainly not a blanket ban.
Many services are very quiet, and people are being told that they have to take their leave as normal.
I'm in community therapies. We're actually pretty busy and there is plenty of work for us to do, but our manager has made it crystal clear that we should be booking in leave as normal, and that our trust will not consider the Government's 2yr carry-over.

And, as everyone keeps saying, teachers are not paid over summer.

[quote dullmiserablepeople]@TyphoidMary2020 it's not true that NHS leave has been banned until
March 2021. Some individual departments may have set their own rules, but it's certainly not a blanket ban.
Many services are very quiet, and people are being told that they have to take their leave as normal.
I'm in community therapies. We're actually pretty busy and there is plenty of work for us to do, but our manager has made it crystal clear that we should be booking in leave as normal, and that our trust will not consider the Government's 2yr carry-over.

And, as everyone keeps saying, teachers are not paid over summer. [/quote]
I didn’t say it was...

Also many of the usual holiday scheme providers in my area are o planning on running clubs if they can.

@averysuitablegirl sorry, just realised I hadn’t been clear: I was referring to the last break that teachers had to work through (easter and halfterm). its shit all around, and I don’t think there should be compensation for having had to work.
Summer - teachers aren’t paid, so should be “off” apart from planning for next year as there is now the plan to open schools in september, so it’s not the all hands on deck situation from earlier this year

@TyphoidMary2020 sorry I meant to say annual leave has not been banned since March.

@TyphoidMary2020

Annual Leave in NHS has been banned since March FYI.

Didn't you?

Yes but see correction above...

Replace "parents" with "parents including those who are teachers"

@TyphoidMary2020 are you for real??

TyphoidMary2020 you said very clearly that all NHS staff had had annual leave cancelled since March.

That isn't true, as both I and Butmiss pointed out, and you clearly did mean to say that to support your view about overly entitled teachers having holidays while parents burnout.

You keep saying that childcare isn't open, despite the govt announcing today that it would be in the very briefing that you refer to.

And yes if you're a keyworker who has been working non-stop since March you will have accessed school-based childcare, I presume. Staffed by, you know, those teachers who you think have been on holiday.

I’ve stopped watching the briefings as they say one thing and then do another as Teachers will be well aware

I am concerned about no childcare options over summer, and whilst some Teachers are Parents too, they don’t appear to have this issue.

Please stop trying to goad me now, this is a Parenting site, I am a Parent and have an opinion which many share and others do not.

I'm torn.

On the one hand, I miss work, I'm dying to get back and it would be nice to give children the opportunity to catch up.

On the other hand, to be blunt - it's my summer, I have plans, I don't want to give it up

@TyphoidMary2020
There is no way that I will work , for nothing, for six weeks during summer.
If you want school staff to be in , then lobby your MP to raise the matter with the PM , as taxpayers will have to pay for school staff to man schools .

Im assuming that you realise that school staff are not paid for ‘holiday’ time. We are paid pro rata.

Typhoid I'm sorry I don't know, keyworker childcare will run in Scotland over the summer (not staffed by teachers) but I assume you're in England.

I am concerned about no childcare options over summer, and whilst some Teachers are Parents too, they don’t appear to have this issue

Well, they will if they are expected to work over the summer , won't they!

TyphoidMary2020 have you actually looked into childcare options available over the summer in your area?

I know that you dismissed this suggestion as 'neither here nor there' earlier, but this does seem to be what you're looking for.

Thank you, yes I am in England.

If keyworker provision continues Teachers will also be able to access this, maybe if at all possible other Parents could support this too, I certainly would do this given a chance. Then everyone could help each other have a break instead of being left to our own devices which is too unreliable and therefore not realistic.

It would help if you watched the briefings before coming on the internet saying there is no childcare.

The childcare in my area is in schools and each of them do not cover other schools unfortunately. My school haven’t said yet what their plans are for summer.

So MNHQ have rejected my query to delete the thread, which quite frankly is no surprise as they have allowed teacher bashing to go on unchecked on this site.