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Car crash 10 months on

95 replies

Sweetpeonie123 · 15/06/2020 07:12

Sorry I didn’t know where to post but would really appreciate some advice and perspective.

10 months ago I crashed my car into another car at a crossroads. I didn’t see the give way sign which had partially been tarmaced over and got out and admitted complete liability on the spot. It didn’t and still doesn’t matter to me that I did this. I knew it was ultimately my fault and I didn’t want to play games. Just got background, all the neighbours cane out (it was in a residential area) and were very helpful to both me and the other driver and said this had been the fourth or fifth time this had happened in months on that spot and that nothing had been done by the council. Later on whilst I waited for a car to be towed, a woman came up to me and asked if it was my car in the accident and then said she’d had the same accident a few weeks earlier although she was the other driver in that situation.

Sorry, I just want to give all this for background.

The other car involved in my crash flipped over and the neighbours had to upright the car. Amazingly the man walked out with not a scratch apart from a small cut to his finger.

The police and paramedics arrived and he was taken to hospital but later discharged once they looked him over.

He was very upset and angry with me at the time and his wife came to the scene and she said as long as you’re both ok that’s the main thing. I spoke to him and his wife the day after and he was feeling much happier, said my insurance had been in touch and he was pleased they were giving him a courtesy car and he was fine. All good.

Yesterday I had a phone call from his wife. He died last month. It was very upsetting, she opened with you killed my husband, then she said the crash caused his cancer. As we spoke, she said he had bladder and prostrate cancer on and off since 2006 but that the crash weakened him and he was unable to fight it off this time and he died in much pain. She said they had not received much money from the insurance and than the funeral had been very expensive. She said the doctor had told her the crash had led to his death due to muscle weakness and she was crying on the phone and said she was very lonely.

I feel shell shocked and very upset. I’ve offered to go round and see her today and she said ok. She doesn’t live very far from me and I also told her she can call me anytime to vent at me if she wants and that I’m so sorry.

But everyone I’ve spoken to says I must not go round and must not engage with her. This seems very harsh and I just don’t know what to do. I was going to just stand on her door step and speak to her.

I feel quite helpless at the moment and that I am to blame for this.

OP posts:
crazycatgal · 15/06/2020 11:34

Yes your friend is right, you need to block and delete her number.

imsooverthisdrama · 15/06/2020 11:35

Good , I'm not sure what she hopes to gain from this apart from financially and that sounds harsh to say , I suppose she is grieving not thinking straight etc .
If she contacts you again I'd just say I'm very sorry but you need support from a friend or family member as you are neither so why would she want to see you .
I think she wanted to lash out at you and that's now done so nothing more to be said to her.

Sweetpeonie123 · 15/06/2020 11:43

Thank you so much everyone for all your replies, I feel much better reading through them and not so dazed and upset as before. I think I can see it a bit more clearly now. I was surprised yesterday at the unanimity from friends and family that I should not go over, should not engage but posting here has made me see maybe this was a foolish idea on my part. Selfishly, I wish she had not contacted me to tell me this but that is quite selfish and I hope she does have some closure now. I do think she is grieving and upset, I don't think she is trying to con me, and I don't hold it against her. I am going to try and move on from this and I hope she too feels more at peace in time.

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WokeUpSmeltTheCoffee · 15/06/2020 11:48

I don't think you should have any more contact.
It cannot possibly be you who helps her.
If block and delete is what's required to have no contact then do that or if you feel that will be perceived as rejection and will anger her more at least save the number as 'do not answer' and then don't answer.

MitziK · 15/06/2020 11:54

You agreed to it because you wanted to do the right thing.

She needed to lash out because he's gone and she's missing him when she is on her own. You gave her that opportunity to say what she needed to say, rather than keep it coiled up inside her. You helped her right then.

Hopefully, it's given her the release she needed and she won't contact you again because she's said what she felt at that moment.

Ariela · 15/06/2020 12:00

Are you sure he actually HAS died and she's not trying to scam you?

Have you done a search online for the obituary?

If it helps you, usually the funeral directors collect money for a charity or charities on behalf of the deceased, and this will be mentioned online. You could donate through that. Then you might feel better (for donating) and she would know you have donated (the FD will tell her the names of who donated).

If you can't find anything online I'd be highly suspicious, as all FD seem to do this online obituary thing now.

4amWitchingHour · 15/06/2020 12:38

I don't believe for a second the doctor would have said the crash contributed to his death. Don't engage.

However (understandably) upset she is, she's totally out of order to contact you like this.

Grandmi · 15/06/2020 12:47

A so sorry for both of you but I 100% agree with everyone that you do not get involved. The poor chap already had the dreaded cancer and there is absolutely no way that the accident would have contributed to this poor mans death . This poor lady needs to be surrounded by her own family and friends . There is also the remote possibility that the whole story is untrue or /and she will start asking for money. Definitely stay away .💐

L0cked0utL0ck392 · 15/06/2020 13:56

2006 was some years ago

Grief sometimes makes people do & think extremely strange things. I would suspect, that the virus & lockdown restrictions, may have heightened this lady's grief further. Nor are her personal or financial circumstances.

Her grief is really not your burden to carry

It sounds like she would benefit from some professional help

I would also suggest, stay away & block or change your phone number

Embracelife · 15/06/2020 14:29

It hs up to her insurance to claim from yours.
Was the insurance already settled? Seems yes.

If she wants to pursue through one of those companies her choice
Sad it is
But you cannot resolve her finance.

Longdistance · 15/06/2020 14:45

@Sweetpeonie123 please cut contact with the wife. It was an accident that sounds like it couldn’t have been prevented.
If solicitors were involved through your insurance, please contact them and the insurance company to inform them that he had died and the wife has been in contact.
Block her number. He’d had cancer previously and there’s nothing to suggest it returned because of the accident. It’s BS!

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 15/06/2020 14:48

Get legal advice. ASAP.

But how bloody fast were you and he going for his car to 'flip over' at a junction with a give-away sign?

FartingInTheFence · 15/06/2020 15:47

The minute she phoned, I would have been straight on to the police for harassment.

You didnt kill her husband. Cancer did.

I get that she's grieving, but so what, that doesnt give her the right to blame you. Block her and if she communicates again, like showing up at your door, you should be calling the police.

She sounds fucking unhinged laying the blame for his death at your door. Car crashes dont cause cancer.

IWantThatName · 15/06/2020 16:24

If you "want to do the right thing" check out the road signs - has the council fixed them? If not, campaign for better road markings and better road safety and make that your, and his, legacy.

Please tell us you have also contacted your insurers to inform them that she has been in contact with you.

MummytoCSJH · 15/06/2020 16:54

A doctor would not have said that to her. There would have been an inquest if it was even possible it was related to the accident and you would've heard about it. Don't let this weigh on you. How does she even have your number? Please don't let her make you feel guilty. I would not have any further contact with her, this is not your fault!

UniversalAunt · 15/06/2020 17:25

This scenario is highly unlikely: if her son makes contact with you to discuss this matter further, this is a red flag. Should this happen, then I would suggest that you contact the police as this action would verge upon harassment. A quiet word from polite officers would stop such contact.

isadoradancing123 · 15/06/2020 19:51

Whether it was your fault or not the fact that she mentioned funeral expense and insurance payout is a huge red flag, do not engage

1WildTeaParty · 15/06/2020 21:53

If the crash caused his death... your insurance company would have been made to pay more. (Crashes don't cause cancer.)

Insurance companies are equipped to deal with the matter in ways that you are not. They do pay out when they are liable. This is one reason why you pay for insurance.

Feel a reasonable amount of doubt about the phone-call.

+Don't allow your guilt over an accident (something that happens to us all... and is another reason we all have insurance) to lead you any further than the sympathy you have given.

Ariela · 16/06/2020 10:59

As I said before, don't see her , cut contact.

Look up his online obituary and find the charities nominated, and make a donation via the funeral director's link on there.

You'll feel better.

She'll be told the names of who contributed.

And leave it at that. It's not your fault he was ill. It's not your fault died.

FixTheBone · 16/06/2020 11:23

"I'm sorry that you feel this way, I have nothing to say that will ease your pain or suffering"

Then don't engage. Ever again.

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