How much do people make from the MLM schemes?

[StunnerNotReally]

My facebook suddenly has loads of women doing these.
Body shop and Tropic and the perfume one.

"I'm so intrigued but would never ask her about it in case she tries to rope me in!"

Don't be intrigued. She's selling juice plus or something but is choosing to go the way of recruiting.

Utility Warehouse is an MLM. And almost impossible to sustain a regular living once you've squeezed out all of your friends

Thanks for that @EnglishGirlApproximately

I'm shielding and unable to work at the moment. Someone approached me with the Travelpreneur Lifestyle which is Inteletravel and I wondered if it was a con or not.

I was interested as I know Hays Travel have people working from home, but then I got all these videos of people gushing about how marvellous the business was and how they earned a fortune around their family life and all that, so I was a bit suspicious!

yorkshire there are lots of travel agents who work from home with genuine business. Travel Counsellors is the biggest but also Hays, Designer Travel, Coop Travel, Not just Travel etc. The main difference is that most of them require you to have some high street experience to join, or they run expensive academies to get people trained. A few will take people with no experience but good relevant skills but it absolutely isn't an easy way to make money. I worked from home as an agent before my current job and made no profit in the first year, gradually building a great little business but it absolutely is a job you need to commit to. Can you imagine being stranded abroad with flights cancelled, or a natural disaster to find your inteletravel agent is at their full time job so can't be contacted? People book through agents, particularly homeworkers, so they have a great personal service so doing it around a full time job doesnt work.

There always seems to be some sort of falling out and a discrepancy over being paid in the end from some of the FB posts/arguments I've seen.

I find of the people I know that do it, actually have wealthy husbands in high paying jobs and they dont 'need' to work anyway.

So fucking disengenuous to make it out like their JP 'business' is funding their lifestyle.

The worst were twins I knew from school. Blocked them ages ago thankfully.

@Pinkyyy

Most lose money.

Maybe that’s what MLM really stands for?

The issue for me is that for someone to make ‘decent money’ they have to recruit, which means those below them are losing out. What a scummy business model.

It amazes me how these things stay afloat considering the rest of the retail sector are suffering.

Oh yes, they're scams and really skirt the boundaries of legality.

As for the trips abroad and luxury cars, anyone can have these as long as you can get finance on them.

@Spidey66 I didn't even realise that!! Must be true

I'm on a local Buy & Sell group. There's a woman on there a lot trying to clear out her old Usborne stock as she's no longer a rep. Clearly making a loss and just trying to claw back a bit of what she paid out - books about £3 each. So now, if you want to sign up as an Usborne rep, you'll be competing with:

• Amazon (cheap, and quick delivery)
• Supermarkets (where there are often discounts)
• Bookshops (ditto)
• The second hand market

And now, add to the list ex-reps selling books at huge discounts. Just why would anyone sign up and expect to make money? I find it all a bit baffling.

Most Lose Money.

Excellent 😁.

And I feel sorry for the woman on this group. She has absolutely stacks and stacks of Usborne books in her house, going by the photos. Surely she's not alone either.

There’s a lady in our village who seems to do them all. Avon, Scentsy, Younique, Body Shop & something to do with wills - when I last checked.

She lives in a very nice house & drives a very nice car - but I’ve no idea how much money she makes herself & how much her DP makes.

Can I just second the recommendation of the Elle Beau blog a PP posted? I was reading this thread earlier and clicked on the link for a quick nose and it’s a really entertaining read! I just binge read all 15 chapters of her blog! Essential reading in case anyone is tempted to get involved in an MLM. ellebeaublog.com/

Oh God yes, Usborne is big here too. We have 3 or 4 people who try and flog it on Facebook and so far as I can see, none of them get the slightest bit of interest.

The local bookshop is doing a roaring trade on click & collect/home delivery though!

The FTC states more than 99% of people in MLMs lose money

"Fake it till you make it" is pretty much the MLM mindset.

Any 'business' which requires you to recruit others to compete with you in selling the product your business produces isnt really much of a business is it?

What I dont get is, the people who join up as a "downline" to a friend do so because of all the "look how much money I'm making" posts they saw their friend make.

Surely the first time, or after a small pattern of times, the friend tells them to post the same and says "fake it till you make it", they would just ask their friend "so were you faking it in your posts too?" And the blinkers should fall away and they should realise they were taken in by fake photos.

Why do they keep doing it and not just walk away when the realise that?!?!

I cant tell if the people posting "I can make you rich, DM me" are taking the piss or not?

This is a thread about how scammy MLMs are! Why would people want to join up with one from this thread?!?

@Floatyboat

Depends. £200/week is realistic if you keep at it.

I can let you know about a very good opportunity if you're interested in making some decent money working from home. DM me

@RedPanda2

An ex colleague started selling the Aloe one, had posts about how she was 'able to give up her 9-5 and actually look after her kids'. Funny, I saw her at old work the other day and she hasn't posted about Aloe for a while......

Yep, this is one of the many shitty things about MLMs - they prey on the vulnerable, and most also prey on the guilt/exhaustion of mothers. I've seen really, really shitty things posted about working mothers so that they can sell people on the idea that a MLM is some sort of paradise where you earn as much or more as working without working. Which is clearly in the 'too good to be true' category, but making people feel bad and guilty is a good way of making them overlook that.

@BobbieDraper

What I dont get is, the people who join up as a "downline" to a friend do so because of all the "look how much money I'm making" posts they saw their friend make.

Surely the first time, or after a small pattern of times, the friend tells them to post the same and says "fake it till you make it", they would just ask their friend "so were you faking it in your posts too?" And the blinkers should fall away and they should realise they were taken in by fake photos.

Why do they keep doing it and not just walk away when the realise that?!?!

a) the friend says 'well at the beginning but NOW...' or 'i didn't have to fake it and nor will you if you try harder!' b) they realise pretty quickly but by that point they've harassed everyone they know and got a spare room full of product so they try and extricate themselves without losing money or having to publicly admit their mistake, but in practice that often leads to throwing good money after bad, like a gambler chasing their next win to make up for their losses

I know an Arbot who has reached RVP. I have no idea what she earns but I think she probably works crazy hours. She has to do motivational phone calls with other Arbots at what seems to be around 5 in the morning, has to run parties and ‘befriend’ everyone she meets. It probably helps that he really partner is a sort of ex z lister so there are contacts. Then she’s got to do constant stuff online about positivity (not wanting to buy Arbonne from her is negativity that she doesn’t need in her life!).
Like a cult, once you reach that point, I think it would probably be difficult to leave as you’re so invested in it in all ways.

Her, not ‘he really’