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How much do people make from the MLM schemes?

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StunnerNotReally · 13/06/2020 22:56

My facebook suddenly has loads of women doing these.
Body shop and Tropic and the perfume one.

OP posts:
gwenneh · 13/06/2020 23:52

I’ve worked on the corporate side of one of these “direct selling” companies.

Of about 1200 reps, 6 were getting regular six-figure cheques. These are the kind of women who would be successful at anything you put in front of them, they work every hour of every day and are naturally social (read:pushy).

The overwhelming majority were break evens. Sold enough to cover their kit, then never sold anything else. This particular company has no monthly minimum or charges and you don’t have to keep stock so once you buy the kit, that’s it.

A few bought the kit and did nothing with it. They lost money.

JamesZebra · 13/06/2020 23:55

My mum used to do body shop and made quite good money out of it although she did it more for the social life.

I have a friend that does Arbonne and she does it as her full time job to fit around her kids and has been for over a year so must be making some moeny. I've tried a few of the products when she has had sales on as they are quite pricey at full price and I thought they were lovely quality and they didn't irritate my skin which is always a bonus. Good for a treat!

LolaSmiles · 13/06/2020 23:57

The overwhelming majority were break evens. Sold enough to cover their kit, then never sold anything else
Out of interest what percentage of those sales were selling kits to the next generation of downline bots?

bubbleup · 14/06/2020 00:03

None, they lose money and friends in the process

gwenneh · 14/06/2020 00:04

Very, very few. While that was the absolute goal, the majority did not recruit a down line at any point.

The majority of the sellers involved really weren’t good at that.

morriseysquif · 14/06/2020 00:04

[quote BobbieDraper]@morriseysquif

What do you make the most money from;
A) selling product to customers

Or

B) from recruiting new salespeople/team members

?[/quote]
Selling the product,/service but they encourage getting a team but you don't have to.

Horehound · 14/06/2020 00:06

My neighbour has started this with Juice plus. I've never heard of it before but now her FB is full of this shit

Redcrayons · 14/06/2020 00:06

I’ve had quite a few Body Shoppers pop up recently. Are they having a big recruitment drive at the moment?

Wishforsnow · 14/06/2020 00:08

Nothing, they are being conned, it's really sad

LolaSmiles · 14/06/2020 00:10

Body shop bots seem to be relying on the fact the product is a known brand unlike some of the horrible Younique rubbish.

I think all MLMs are on a push because of uncertainty with jobs and people being tight on money. They're horribly predatory like that.

Pinkyyy · 14/06/2020 00:22

Most lose money.

BSintolerant · 14/06/2020 00:23

So what is the point of the "teams"? I have a woman trying to get me to be part of her body shop term

@StunnerNotReally whoever recruits you makes money out of your sales - they need you to line their pockets. These MLM schemes are somewhat pyramid-shaped. The only reason this type of pyramid scheme is legal is because they involve selling products which are often highly expensive.

If you want to make money don’t join an MLM (Multilevel Marketing) scheme. People involved in these schemes are desperate to make money. A lot of them are taking advantage of the current economic situation by conning into people to joining their teams using false promises of everything from a bit of extra money to financial freedom. It’s all BS - the majority of people lose money.

Have a look at these articles:

www.talentedladiesclub.com/articles/tag/mlm/

bubbleup · 14/06/2020 00:35

@morriseysquif what is "quite a lot" to you? Without exaggerating if you can.

morriseysquif · 14/06/2020 00:49

In 2 months I made 800 without really doing that much, a few hours work here and there but mine is in a regulated market so it is not like these cosmetic thingys.

Gertie75 · 14/06/2020 01:03

One of the school Mum's posted a video last week boasting about how she's made more selling Juice Plus part time than she ever does in her full time job and how she's super excited to know she'll get even more money next month.

She then went on to ask people to contact her if they wanted to know more.

Livedandlearned · 14/06/2020 01:30

I don't know of one person who has bought anything from juiceplus. My friend used to buy bootea, I think that's an mlm. Bootea seemed to be a laxative tea to make you lose weight. And money Grin

Pieceofpurplesky · 14/06/2020 01:47

I have a friend that doesn't learn. She bought in to the whole Arbonne stuff, paid to go to Vegas, made positive mood boards the whole lot. Made a bit initially and then it fizzled out when everyone had attended and bought from one party.
Two years on she has just joined Body Shop like loads of others seem to do.
Tropic is all over my FB too. (Although a friend bought me one of their soaps and it is the nicest smelling hair and body soap I have ever had!).

Scott72 · 14/06/2020 01:48

Once you get recruited into one of these scams, the scam places very little emphasis on encouraging you to sell products to end users. It places almost all emphasis on encouraging you to recruit new marketers. I guess the idea of being an entrepreneur with a sales team working for you is far more appealing than being a peddler of overpriced gimmicky items.

In fact if one of your friends or relatives gets sucked into one of these scams and you offer to buy some of their stuff, they will actually be disappointed that they weren't instead able to convince you to become a distributor.

Of course they still need to sell some stuff to stay in the scheme. They mostly wind up buying it themselves and putting it in a spare room, convincing themselves this is just a temporary expense that will be repaid many time over once they make it big in the scheme.

morriseysquif · 14/06/2020 01:51

OP, why are you asking?

AnotherMintAero · 14/06/2020 03:04

I know someone that has been taken by a MLM cult for past few years, when chatting often reminds me of Del boy "this time next year we'll be millionaires" and when recites all the guff about those that have made a fortune I wonder if either they're faking it or are company stooges put in it to boost recruitment & motivate those below to carry on bringing in the ££

They get a referral fee for recruiting to the team which is more than selling and also a % on that persons sales. Also the higher up the chain the cheaper they can buy products so get better cut from both sides. Pretty much everyone comes into contact tries to recruit or sell to.

They seem to go to lot of team meetings,
these events where go on stage and everyone claps your success & brainwashed about how to make it big. Yet seem to pay to go to a lot of these events themselves. They said someone above had offered to pay for them to go to the foreign conference if hit a certain target.

My friend was bit cagey about actual totals although would say they'd done well this month or made x for some sale. However I think if they costed up every hour of time they'd invested into the MLM & costs for mlm events/stock/travel/stall costs etc they'd not be making much as they think & hadn't given up the day job to go do full-time.

I find it sad as it can promote isolation for many as naturally friends, family etc start to avoid the sales pitches. My friend gave up the hobby was quite passionate about as had no time and social life was replaced with other MLM bots so end up in an echo chamber.

purpleme12 · 14/06/2020 03:17

It's the over the top positivity all the time that gets me and all of a sudden as well.

RyanBergarasTeeth · 14/06/2020 03:44

Avon seems ok. My sister makes a decent ammount and seems to enjoy it shes been doing it for 3 years now. Everything else is nuts. One lady was so good she nearly bloody convinced me with her juice plus until i saw the bloody price of it! However she seems to have stopped JP and seems a decent woman. However i habe a youniqe rep and shes a right pillock but rather horribly i keep her on facebook to see her nasty rants at people not supporting her business and not watching her live shows putting horrid make up on. She was also a major bridezilla who proclaimed angrily when a couple of people she invited to her wedding couldnt attend that "a wedding invite is an honour to receive". So that shows you what some of them are like. Plus she has a really grown up well paid real job so i have no idea why she does it.

TazSyd · 14/06/2020 04:19

Mines full of Arbonne and Herbalife. Well, until I muted them.

The ones that do Arbonne look as though they are doing ok but in reality have high earning husbands to fund the glossy lifestyle.

Hugosmum123 · 14/06/2020 04:33

I HAD a friend who makes a lot from Arbonne - about £60k a year, always off to the conferences, totally brain washed by the cult 😂

She’s got no friends mind. We all got sick of her trying to sell us overpriced mascara and milk shakes.

They tell you to target all your friends and family and social media contacts.

I’m pretty sure that Facebook bans Arbonne etc...

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