To think the idea that schools won’t be back full time by September is an absolute disgrace?

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The government and teaching unions need to pull their fingers out. There should be no excuses.

The effects of 6 months out of school is going to be damaging enough, both educationally and mentally for hundreds of thousands of children. Not to mention the unnoticed abuse and neglect.

Teachers should be wearing PPE with spit screens if they are vulnerable and this should be being organised now. Temporary classrooms should be being built in playgrounds and school fields. Random testing routines in all schools should be being devised as well as guidelines regarding children’s contact with others outside of school and home. Whatever it takes, it must be done.

Our society expects parents to work while their DC are at school and if they want to get the economy moving again, schools being back by September should be non negotiable surely?

SudokuBook
My sister works in a hospital and no one has been wearing PPE.

Interesting

I was in A&E and every health care professional was wearing PPE and giving masks out to everyone that came in.

Also my GP has just sent out an email saying that if you are allowed to come in you will have to wear a facemask (not provided).

SudokuBook My sister works in a hospital and no one has been wearing PPE

So what? If she's daft enough to turn up for work unprotected, that's no reflection on teachers.

I think this is another of those my neighbour/my friend/yada yada posts

I don't think it will be the new normal despite those who wish to catastrophise - the 2 metre rule will be relaxed and things will start getting back to normal because the risk is minuscule. If schools are not back full time in September it will be a national disgrace.

@CallmeAngelina

And I’ve been assured the teachers at my Dds school will not be wearing PPE Was that a concern for you? If so, why? I will wear PPE if I choose to.

Yes it is a concern. Both my children will be going in to new school from leaving school in a normal environment. I don’t want it to frighten them. They are three and seven. With infection rates and fatality rates on a down ward trend by September I think they will be unnecessary in a school setting where there is only 15 children per class

Also at my old school where reception and year 1 has opened they were not wearing PPE and welcomed the children back happily.

I’m honestly starting to think that for some teachers this is their time to be ‘heard’ after feeling that they haven’t been for such a long time.

I’m honestly starting to think that for some teachers this is their time to be ‘heard’ after feeling that they haven’t been for such a long time

What?

@Jkslays - I definitely think Schools need to be back in September. Really though you can’t tell teachers not to wear PPE if they want to. Kids will have been used to seeing masked wearers by now and a simple explanation will suffice. It’s really not scary. It’s not as if the teachers are coming in wearing Halloween masks or something

If you don't want your children to feel scared, then either prepare them for it (after all, they are going to see plenty of masks out and about over the next few months) or keep them home.
But you cannot dictate to me whether I choose to wear one or decide on my behalf what is safe for me in my working environment.

Why would anyone think the government had any plans?:

www.theguardian.com/society/2020/jun/15/permanent-secretaries-not-aware-of-any-economic-planning-for-a-pandemic

@CallmeAngelina

If you don't want your children to feel scared, then either prepare them for it (after all, they are going to see plenty of masks out and about over the next few months) or keep them home. But you cannot dictate to me whether I choose to wear one or decide on my behalf what is safe for me in my working environment.

I’m not dictating anything - do you speak for all teachers? I don’t think you do tbh. If you are an actual teacher maybe it’s time you choose another job? Speaking behind a mask is obstructive and if you as a teacher can’t see what effects on a child’s learning would I think it’s best if you did tbh. I taught sports for ten years to school children - if your interests are still not delivering the best learning support then it’s game over for you anyway.

The stats show a down ward trend if you like to accept it or not.

@echt

SudokuBook My sister works in a hospital and no one has been wearing PPE

So what? If she's daft enough to turn up for work unprotected, that's no reflection on teachers.

I think this is another of those my neighbour/my friend/yada yada posts

What ever work place you are apart of you can not just to decide to wear/not to wear it. It’s a compulsory for some (hospitals).

As for teachers I’m assuming they are NOT allowed to just turn up and teach in PPE?

[quote worzelsnurzel123]@Jkslays - I definitely think Schools need to be back in September. Really though you can’t tell teachers not to wear PPE if they want to. Kids will have been used to seeing masked wearers by now and a simple explanation will suffice. It’s really not scary. It’s not as if the teachers are coming in wearing Halloween masks or something[/quote]
I didn’t tell anyone!! I spoke to the new head and asked her what school life would be like in September. She replied she had no idea but that they had already chosen not to wear PPE to keep it as normal as possible. They were already doing this for the classes that were on - and I know my old school are doing the same

MN is a tiny bubble with the same few teachers that go on threads. These teachers to not count for all the teachers in the U.K.

I can't see how wearing masks and teaching/speaking to class isn't going to work, the kids won't understand what is being said

*is going to work

Id give my left leg to be back in school teaching, and my school is doing everything they can to get us back asap.

It just isnt possible under current government guidelines. We desperatly need the gov to start working with the unions to make it possible.

@PheasantPlucker1

Id give my left leg to be back in school teaching, and my school is doing everything they can to get us back asap.

It just isnt possible under current government guidelines. We desperatly need the gov to start working with the unions to make it possible.

Yes I spoke to dd old teacher on zoom and she’s desperate to get back, your not on your own.

I totally agree that teachers should have the option to wear PPE. I would have thought visors were much more practical than masks and sourcing and funding them should be top priority for the government (with strong lobbying from the Ed sector if needed).

@Raaaa it’s true.Not to mention how annoying it is to have a mask on your face for hours.

Our high school has the PPE. We have masks, we have visors.

What we dont have is space. 2metre distancing isnt possible to get everyone back in. Nor can we keep groups in bubbles.

Im convinced the only way we can be back full time in september is to give up with these ideas and let schools run as normal, just allowing the teachers and pupils who need to shield to be absent.

Yes just spread the virus. That’s the only way.

If its a choice between me getting the virus or predicting grades for my current year 10 and 12s...

Ill take the virus

There is growing evidence that children don't actually spread the virus to adults, among each others, or catch it from adults in great numbers either.

twitter.com/apsmunro/status/1263493025650614279

No huge surge in cases in any situation where schooling has resumed. Arguing for maintaining social distance between adults in schools, which should be simpler to achieve. Less evidence for social distancing between adults and children, or children among themselves.

I will also take the virus, many have tragically died in hospital but many have also been relatively unscathed and got over it at home.

I asked about ppe at my school. Staff can wear it if they choose to and provide it themselves. The policy not to provide it is purely an economic one.

Look at the rest of the world- majority of teachers and in fact children wear ppe in schools. Masks will be the new normal and accepted. Kids will only be fearful because it's a new phenomenon but soon it will be normal.

So many posters on here think we should scrap every safety measure and that the virus is miraculously going away. Also sadly a view that they don't care anyway cause 'only' old and vulnerable will die. Probably. Lovely

I don't give a monkeys if teachers want full hazmat suits - whatever it takes to get our kids back in school being taught and getting an education!