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To think the idea that schools won’t be back full time by September is an absolute disgrace?

999 replies

LovingLivingInLockdown · 13/06/2020 22:36

The government and teaching unions need to pull their fingers out. There should be no excuses.

The effects of 6 months out of school is going to be damaging enough, both educationally and mentally for hundreds of thousands of children. Not to mention the unnoticed abuse and neglect.

Teachers should be wearing PPE with spit screens if they are vulnerable and this should be being organised now. Temporary classrooms should be being built in playgrounds and school fields. Random testing routines in all schools should be being devised as well as guidelines regarding children’s contact with others outside of school and home. Whatever it takes, it must be done.

Our society expects parents to work while their DC are at school and if they want to get the economy moving again, schools being back by September should be non negotiable surely?

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sleepwouldbenice · 16/06/2020 07:48

Getting sick and tired of those who say kids will just catch up. My year 8 child will probably do so yes, but not my year 12. She's tried hard but you can't reach yourself A levels. She has no predicted grades, no end of year report due, the school decided to drop down to 4 days a week whether you like it or not. The year 10 and 12 plans seem to involve 8 (8!} kids only going back a day and not even seeing their own teachers. And of course no variety to teaching other than PowerPoints other that maybe doing a bit going forward. Maybe. And a risk assessment published last Friday

Can anyone explain why this is acceptable, I have no doubt many individual teachers are working hard but the overall provision is shocking

Sweetlikecoca · 16/06/2020 08:02

@sleepwouldbenice absolutely I agree the amount of kids from each class that may struggle even if it was just 6 kids in each class. This is still a lot of children overall that will be behind. I would rather have the SD scrapped in schools fathering than this shit show continue in September onwards

Twinklelittlestar1 · 16/06/2020 08:09

Can anyone explain why this is acceptable, I have no doubt many individual teachers are working hard but the overall provision is shocking

No, because we, individuals, are not responsible for any of this, we're doing are best with what we've been given in an unprecedented time. Take your misdirected anger and fire it at Boris and gang.

whenwillthemadnessend · 16/06/2020 08:18

Sleepwouldbenice. It's not acceptable. The teens are getting royaly screwed over

Pleasenodont · 16/06/2020 08:21

It’s not actually down to the unions, the government would need to fund temporary classrooms and PPE for teachers which they won’t because they’re already funding hundreds of thousands of furloughed staff.

I did and still do think most children will be back by September anyway.

sleepwouldbenice · 16/06/2020 08:35

I understand school finance thank you. But this isn't about finance. This is about what one school has chosen to do compared to others.

LolaSmiles · 16/06/2020 08:41

I understand school finance thank you. But this isn't about finance. This is about what one school has chosen to do compared to others.
Finance is a part of it, and you'd understand that if you understand schools and school finance.

Are you seriously going to suggest that different schools, with different buildings, different school sites, different staffing levels for subjects, different amounts of bathrooms, different travel arrangements for pupils don't have different challenges where money might just be a factor?

worzelsnurzel123 · 16/06/2020 09:09

I think the big frustration here is that teachers are not one big homogeneous group who are all working to the same level. This must be really frustrating for teachers who are working flat out to be painted with the same brush as those who are doing precious little. It’s frustrating on so many levels, for parents, teachers and children. We just need to find a way forward.

FrippEnos · 16/06/2020 09:11

sleepwouldbenice
I understand school finance thank you. But this isn't about finance. This is about what one school has chosen to do compared to others.

There has been a campaign called worthless which highlighted the difference in finance between state schools.

Its worth a look

Jkslays · 16/06/2020 09:20

The schools should be open and ready for business by September. The stats are looking very promising.

To think the idea that schools won’t be back full time by September is an absolute disgrace?
starrynight87 · 16/06/2020 09:34

Unless you are a teacher, you cannot comment.

AlwaysCheddar · 16/06/2020 09:36

Why, starry night?

Jkslays · 16/06/2020 09:40

@starrynight87

Unless you are a teacher, you cannot comment.
Was this aimed at me??

The majority of the teachers have no idea what’s happening. The head of my kids school has no idea what’s happening so why are only teachers allowed to comment. They really are not privy to secret information

Jkslays · 16/06/2020 09:42

And I’ve been assured the teachers at my Dds school will not be wearing PPE ( they are not wearing any now as they are open to three years)

LolaSmiles · 16/06/2020 09:44

Unless you are a teacher, you cannot comment
I disagree. It's perfectly reasonable for parents to comment on schools opening back to normal, as long as it's done without being goady and bashing a whole profession.

It's reasonable for parents to be annoyed at the government handling of education right now. It's reasonable for them to express concerns if they have issue with their child's school. It's not reasonable for them to sit on here giving it the usual 'teachers don't care about their students, are work shy and want schools to close indefinitely', nor is it reasonable to decide that schools are a disgrace because the phased return in their child's school isn't how they want it done.

AlwaysCheddar · 16/06/2020 09:49

I’m not a teacher but I will comment. Sending out a few worksheet does not constitute a fill time role. Zero online lessons. Wtf are SOME schools/teachers doing?

CallmeAngelina · 16/06/2020 09:51

And I’ve been assured the teachers at my Dds school will not be wearing PPE
Was that a concern for you? If so, why?
I will wear PPE if I choose to.

SudokuBook · 16/06/2020 09:51

Unless you are a teacher, you cannot comment.

That’s us told then. Who made you the thread police?

echt · 16/06/2020 09:51

Zero online lessons

A worksheet sent out online is er...online

HTH.

SudokuBook · 16/06/2020 09:53

My sister works in a hospital and no one has been wearing PPE. The fact teachers think they’ll need it when fewer than 1 in 1000 people have the virus and falling seems to me to be quite absurd.

AlwaysCheddar · 16/06/2020 09:53

Sending a worksheet by email which isn’t marked is not decent education.

HTH

echt · 16/06/2020 09:55

My sister works in a hospital and no one has been wearing PPE. The fact teachers think they’ll need it when fewer than 1 in 1000 people have the virus and falling seems to me to be quite absurd

This is not a race to the bottom, though it would appear so for you.
If hospital; workers are getting fucked by the government, why should teachers go for the same?

echt · 16/06/2020 09:56

Sending a worksheet by email which isn’t marked is not decent education

Have you complained? What has been the result?

FrippEnos · 16/06/2020 09:59

AlwaysCheddar

Wtf are SOME schools/teachers doing?

You could look through the many threads on here to see what teachers are doing and what the teacher's of next door neighbour's brother's friend's cat is doing.

CallmeAngelina · 16/06/2020 10:00

My sister works in a hospital and no one has been wearing PPE. The fact teachers think they’ll need it when fewer than 1 in 1000 people have the virus and falling seems to me to be quite absurd

Yet we have received notification that if ("IF") we are lucky enough to get a face-to-face GP appointment, we have to wear a mask. And it's compulsory on public transport.
But you appear to know more than those who have set those rules.