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To think this baby is my grandchild?

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mishahotit · 13/06/2020 21:00

Posting here for advice on how to handle it as I really don’t want to cause anyone any upset but I’m not sure I can just sit on my hands and ignore this. Am fully prepared to be told I’m a nosy old cow who should mind her own business.

DS was 19 in May. He has suffered from depression for years which has been worsened by the pandemic. He unfortunately smokes weed to cope with it but it just makes him worse, not that he’ll be told that. He is on furlough from his part time job and so has his own money to pay for it, I can’t stop him. All I do is ban it in my house and he’ll smoke in the local park. He has started having mental breakdowns every few weeks, panic attacks, verbal abuse etc. I have tried to get him to quit the weed and seek help but he won’t.

He had a short term girlfriend last year, from around February to July. It fizzled out and he dumped her. Other than college and work, DS hasn’t had much going on since. She was a lovely girl, I saw her often and liked her but of course she was out of our lives after the split.

Yesterday I was browsing Facebook and she came up in the “people you may know” section. I clicked her profile, not sure why I did but I think I may have been wondering how her mum was doing as she was awaiting an illness diagnosis when her and DS were together. Saw a few pictures of a newish looking baby, assumed it was a relative or a friends baby or something. But then get to a post dated mid-March, a picture of her in hospital holding a newborn and people congratulating her in the comments. As you can imagine, cogs started turning and I had a bit of a ‘hang on a minute’ moment. They split in July last year, March means baby would have been conceived just before then.

I looked (and keep looking as I am so stunned) at the pictures of this baby again and he really does resemble DS at that age. It’s uncanny. I really do think this is DS’s baby and I don’t know what to do. It’s not just going off gut feeling is it as the dates do add up. Except since the split DS hasn’t mentioned her to me at all, certainly no baby.

So I’ve come to the conclusion that there are 3 possibilities. 1. DS has no clue that this child even exists. They met online, no mutual friends so I find it possible. 2. DS has noticed/she has told him but he is avoiding it. Sadly this is something I see him doing in his current state. 3. DS and her have spoken and it’s been confirmed somehow it isn’t his.

I cannot stop thinking about the whole situation and I don’t know what to do. Can’t even look at DS knowing it’s possible he has a child out there that he is avoiding. Haven’t mentioned it to him as he hates me having anything to do with his life and will likely kick off. Have thought about messaging the girl but the last thing I want is to come in all guns blazing into this girl’s life. If there’s a possibility it’s DS’s he needs to contact her, not me.

I’d really appreciate some advice on how to handle it as I’m struggling keeping it all in. As I said, I really don’t want to cause anyone any upset.

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70isaLimitNotaTarget · 13/06/2020 22:55

Your DS has only just turned 19 so when he was going out with his GF he was 17 , and split up at 18 .
That's a lot of potential change - five month relationship, college , work and now potentially a Dad .
Add in the depression, breakdowns and the weed - that's a lot on his plate

But if the baby is his , then in the words of Jeremy Kyle , (He should've put something on the end of it) he'll need to step up.
He will find the CSA/ equivilant contacting him at some time so he needs to think about money .

It's going to be easier all round if he isn't the Dad.
But if he is then he needs to plan. He might not have any part in the baby's life .

If he's living in your house as an adult , he needs to act as an adult . Flowers

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Bookoffacts · 13/06/2020 22:56

Message the mum tomorrow.
Be nice to her.

You definitely don't need your son's permission. He's not king/god.

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sauvignonblancplz · 13/06/2020 22:57

This is a really horrible situation.
I think you should make contact with the girl and I think you need to formulate a plan to help your son.
Good luck Flowers

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borntohula · 13/06/2020 22:59

If he's anything like my ex was, he's unbearable when not smoking weed. It's up to him sort himself out ultimately but hostility towards you is horribly out of order, he needs to grow up. My eldest is 14yo so I really don't know how you're supposed to deal with this but I hope it gets much better for you.

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70isaLimitNotaTarget · 13/06/2020 23:00

The reason I haven’t straight out spoken to DS is because he hates me asking questions. I get a barrage of “piss off”, “fuck off”, “don’t ask”, “mind your own fucking business” and then he’ll just attempt to hide things even more

Just saw your update - my DS is 20 and if he ever spoke to me like that his arse wouldn't touch the floor as I bounced him and his tatty belongings out .

I have all the sympathy for your DS what he's going through but that level of disrespect , No Way .

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OhCaptain · 13/06/2020 23:01

Your son sounds vile. I’d consider kicking him out tbh.

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LovingLola · 13/06/2020 23:02

you have rights as a grandmother.

What rights??

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Sheepareawesome · 13/06/2020 23:02

If she knows where DS lives and isn't/hasn't been in contact, there is likely a reason. Whatever it is, it is up to her.

I would just send her a message saying something along the lines of you popped up on my FB, congratulations what a gorgeous baby hope you are all keeping well x and leave it at that. If she wants to, she will contact you. If she doesn't, put it out of your mind, hard though that would be.

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Mummsnett · 13/06/2020 23:03

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ittakes2 · 13/06/2020 23:03

Is there a chance he split from her because she was pregnant and wanted to keep the baby? She might have assumed he told you and that you also wanted nothing to do with her. You were once in touch - just ask her.

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hiredandsqueak · 13/06/2020 23:04

The father of my dgs knew about him as soon as dd knew. He told her to abort (she was 28wks) then he told her he would commit suicide if she kept the baby. Then he tried to persuade her to have the baby adopted before threatening suicide again. Then after the birth he sent more abusive messages before telling her he'd fight for custody if she went to CMS. He didn't though tell his mother that his partner of three years had had a baby and that was the reason they had split. Chances are OP if the baby is your son's he knows and has known for a while and his exp has distanced herself for her and her baby's wellbeing.

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borntohula · 13/06/2020 23:06

@Mummsnett 'This is exactly why your generation should not have access to social media,' WTF? It's not OP going on about contacting her, it's the advice she's getting from other people!

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hopefullydevoted · 13/06/2020 23:09

It is odd that she popped up if you have no friends in common. She may have been looking for your profile.

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Bookoffacts · 13/06/2020 23:09

Go away (/fk off) @mummsnett.
Your ageism is disgusting.

Op will be a good influence in her grandchilds life.
The son has a lot of growing up to do but should come round by age 25. They usually do.
Please don't walk away. Baby deserves paternal links regardless of actual dad contact.

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Cheeseaandbiscuit · 13/06/2020 23:10

meant his kindly but please don’t look too much into the baby’s looks as your answer

I second this. There was once a woman who claimed my DP was father to her child (she knew he wasn't, dates were months out) I was absolutely convinced the child was the spitting imagine of him and our DC based on their pictures, got a DNA test and he definitely wasn't the father. I think the more I didn't want to see resemblance the more I saw it, it was like my brain torturing me because I really didn't want it to be true. You may be the same op.

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bringincrazyback · 13/06/2020 23:12

This is exactly why your generation should not have access to social media.

FFS @Mummsnett ageist much?! How old do you think the OP is, 80? She has a 19-year-old DS, she might be quite young for all you know. But even if she was 'old' in whatever terms you choose to define that, dictating what people 'should' or 'should not' have access to based on their age is beyond obnoxious. Sheesh.

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mishahotit · 13/06/2020 23:12

Mummsnett

Amazing isn’t it how you’ve managed to workout my age.

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Redshoeblueshoe · 13/06/2020 23:12

Bloody hell . . . This is why your generation shouldn't have access to social media ? ! ! !
Do you honestly believe that mummsnett ?

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Cheeseycheeseycheesecheese · 13/06/2020 23:12

I don't think there is a right or wrong way about finding out.

From the sounds of it your ds wouldn't be happy with you asking
And as many other posters have said if the baby is his and she wanted you involved she would have reached out.

I think mentioning to ds you saw her out pushing a pram the other day would be a safe way, just ask if they're still in contact and if he knows she's had a baby.
Failing that, just a congratulations message to her, just say she popped up in your people you might know and you were wondering how she was, and her mum with the illness thing.

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overnightangel · 13/06/2020 23:13

Your son may be an adult, but this becomes your business when he is living in your house , off his head, and abusing you and is in no fit state to make any decisions.
So I would absolutely go over his head and message his ex girlfriend.

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AcrossthePond55 · 13/06/2020 23:13

I wouldn't sit him down and say "I have something to tell you" or "We need to talk". I think I'd start by saying to my DS something along the lines of "I saw on FB that XXX has had a baby" in passing conversation. Not a question, just a statement. See how he reacts. It may lead to nothing or it may lead to him either saying he knew or that he doesn't know or care. If you don't get an absolute 'fuck off' or some other form of hostility, then maybe say "Do you think it could be yours?". Then, unless he wants to open up to you, just drop it. There's nothing more constructive to be said.

I don't think you need to discuss with him any plans you have regarding contacting her. That's your business and needn't involve him. I have 2 sons and if I found out that either of them had a child nothing they could say would stop me from at least trying to have a relationship with that child.

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Jkslays · 13/06/2020 23:16

@LovingLola

you have rights as a grandmother.

What rights??

Rights that are upheld in family courts. Grandparents do win access to grandchildren but usually when there has been established contact.

People are too quick to assume grandparents don’t have any ‘rights’ but sometimes they do
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Paintedmaypole · 13/06/2020 23:17

This is why your generation shouldn't have social media !! The son is 19. OP might be in her 40s. In any case that would be a ridiculous remark if she was 70. OP, this is very difficult. I would ask your son first. If he tells you to fuck off and mind your own business I would tell him that you plan to ask his ex. I would not go completely behind his back. If he won't discuss it with you I would send her one of the very low key messages that have been suggested, offering support and sending congratulations but putting no pressure o her at all. Then leave the ball in her court.

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MadameMeursault · 13/06/2020 23:17

If you have no friends in common and she popped up as a potential friend she has 99% for sure looked you up. I’d ask your son first then if no joy pm her.

You really shouldn’t put up with the shit behaviour from your DS though. My DB was like your DS and destroyed his life with drugs. If it’s affecting his MH he needs to get off the weed. So difficult though I know.

And @Mummsnett - fuck off with your ageism.

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whiplashy · 13/06/2020 23:18

tricky but best stay out of it

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