To think lockdown is now completely unenforceable?

[Cornana]

First off, this is NOT a debate on people breaking lockdown. People are- not everyone- but it’s happening, yet some people still majorly adhere, and opinions on that are not really relevant to my post.

My question is, AIBU to think lockdown is now unenforceable and extremely hard to monitor? When it was essential travel only, and we could only go to the shops, it was probably easier. Now you can drive anywhere, you can go in someone’s house under bubble rules from Saturday, etc... AIBU to think it is now unenforceable and simply relies on people doing their part and listening to advice? And that this is less likely as people from non-single adult households are now going to think, “to hell with it?”

For example, I live alone and can now visit my partner. But if I didn’t live alone, no one would know if I went and saw my partner anyway. And if I didn’t live alone and wasn’t ‘allowed,’ I don’t honestly know how much longer I could last. That’s just an example of what I mean.

Side note, I’m glad about the new changes, I’m dying for social contact at this point.

Lock down was over for me the day Cummings the C*NT refused to resign.

Having said that I have done very little to break it, but a trip to Dublin is starting to look attractive.

YANBU - once Mr Cummings’ failed interpretation came to light, it as over. Government tried to pedal back, but they couldn’t.
Have been wondering about the (in) convenient timing of it though. 6 weeks after it happened.
But you are right, lockdown is over for me. Respect others’ views and paranoia, but I carry on life as much as I can. I hope we can establish herd immunity this summer. (The only thing I agree with from this government)

For me it was when 15000 gathered in London, whatythe point now? The only thing is schools, lockdown doesn’t end until schools open.

I try my best to adhere for the safety of the few I come in contact with they are my first priority
I agree allowing thousands to mass together makes a mockery of it all no matter how good the reasons
You can go out now but to limited places I have no interest in shops as not going anywhere to need new clothing
Track and trace would work if people were forced to give their correct details

Yeah.. it's gone done now. We arent doing much to break the rules. I'm still wfh. We havent been anywhere other than the supermarket and one homebase trip. It is my 30th this weekend and my best friend is coming round. I haven't seen her since March. We have our couple friends round for a drink and I am now seeing my mum and dad as normal.

It doesn't have to be 'enforceable', we just need most people to follow social distancing and for high risk businesses like restaurants, concerts, beauty treatments to remain closed and the risk of mass transmission is very low.

It doesn't really matter if people meet up in small groups as long as they stay 2 m apart and not have close contact with each other, especially indoors.

I'm amazed anyone is still following it apart from those who are shielding. I'm going to start living my life and I've been out and about seeing people. Lockdown drove me to another nervous breakdown and i am not willing to sacrifice my mental health any more.

In this last week I've met up with friends with my kids (who can't social distance) and ive been into one friends home and spent most of the day there....

No point in lockdown now after the protests.

I still socially distance. But I suppose the thing is that the people who don't are more visible.
But that's purely personal. Once thousands are allowed to break lockdown by going on marches, I think it's over on a society-wide basis.
I feel bitter that my dad is ill in a nursing home and I can't see him, while these marches were allowed.

YABU because it was always difficult to monitor. If people drove somewhere non-essential during full lockdown, went to the supermarket too often, went on multiple exercise outings etc the chances of them being stopped must have been tiny. I live in a fairly rural area. I don't think I've seen a single police officer anywhere since before lockdown. The rules always depended on people choosing to follow advice.

someone recently said to me that people make their minds up about how they'll behave in Lockdown, then justify it.

Now the NHS has capacity, that nonsense about Cummings testing his eyes (it’s the insult to people’s intelligence I find the most offensive), the relaxing slowly rules I am past caring. I socially distance where I can.

For all of you not keeping up social distancing will you self isolate if you are picked up as a contact in test and trace?

I am pretty much keeping to the rules as we have vulnerable family members so would hate to pass on the virus, but that also means we shouldn’t be impacted by T&T.

@DoorstoManual
Arrivals into Dublin are being asked to quarantine for 14 days. Ireland is getting this under control very well now (single digit cases for most of the last week) and certainly don’t want good work undone by loads of people arriving and not isolating, especially from severely hit countries like the U.K.

Personally I think its the governments way of pushing the blame for a second wave onto the general public. Absolving themselves of any responsibility.

Knew they had lost respect/control after the Cummings mess up - not condoning it but if had just put his hands up said yes I screwed up, I believe the reaction would have been less belligerent.

Now it feels like people are doing what they like with no remorse.

Do you think protests should now stop, they are still going on? Many planned this weekend, either protests are stopped or we just forget lockdown.

They don't need to monitor it

The majority are still observing it - something like 60+ % are still complying

We are an extremely compliant nation

@LaurieFairyCake I find that hard to believe. Who do they ask? How do they know 60% of the country are still complying?

The majority are still observing it - something like 60+ % are still complying.

I don't find that at all hard to believe. Compliance doesn't make the news or get plastered all over social media. The non-compliant minority get all the attention. I don't know anyone who hasn't been following the rules and haven't seen anyone out and about obviously flouting them either.

For all of you not keeping up social distancing will you self isolate if you are picked up as a contact in test and trace?

I would but that's unlikely as i won't be downloading any apps backed by this government.

They've done studies

And it suits the press to focus on protests/beaches etc

Plus there's nowhere to go - no restaurants/theatres/kids stuff/cinema/shops yet - no toilets/no churches/no museums - it stands to reason the vast majority are complying the majority of the time

At the moment it is phone calls not the app, so would you respond to a phone call?

@chewchew I don't see the point in me downloading it either. I don't go anywhere and with the kids now being off until September I can't see that changing anytime soon. We have a close bubble of my parents and our couple friends. So if they had symptoms we would know anyway

I think the message was lost with ‘stay alert’, travel as far as you want for as long as you want, which predates The DC fiasco.

Traffic rose significantly at that point, crowds in parks and beaches.

At the point of D.C. even the police said it was now unenforceable.

As with others I suspect that the govt is lining up to blame the public.