To think lockdown is now completely unenforceable?

[Cornana]

First off, this is NOT a debate on people breaking lockdown. People are- not everyone- but it’s happening, yet some people still majorly adhere, and opinions on that are not really relevant to my post.

My question is, AIBU to think lockdown is now unenforceable and extremely hard to monitor? When it was essential travel only, and we could only go to the shops, it was probably easier. Now you can drive anywhere, you can go in someone’s house under bubble rules from Saturday, etc... AIBU to think it is now unenforceable and simply relies on people doing their part and listening to advice? And that this is less likely as people from non-single adult households are now going to think, “to hell with it?”

For example, I live alone and can now visit my partner. But if I didn’t live alone, no one would know if I went and saw my partner anyway. And if I didn’t live alone and wasn’t ‘allowed,’ I don’t honestly know how much longer I could last. That’s just an example of what I mean.

Side note, I’m glad about the new changes, I’m dying for social contact at this point.

@FluffyKittensinabasket

I’ve already stayed at parents and MILs house. And the police didn’t jump out of a bush to arrest me.

What's your point?

People break laws every minute of every day, no one thinks the police follow them around waiting to pounce. Not being caught doing the wrong thing doesn't somehow make it right.

Why would what someone else does, especially someone like Cummings, have so much impact on their behaviour, can't they think for themselves?

I've wondered this since the story came out, I don't get It either?

If peeps are ignoring the lockdown rules then it’s time to go back to work.

@Maggiemay I agree and schools when they open.

@pigsdofly I can make my own risk assessments. There are hundreds of thousands of people protesting, going to the beach etc, but my mum can't come in my house? I'm done with that now. I'm not leaving the house to go to mass gatherings or having them in my garden, I'll continue to work from home and socially distance when in public, but I'm seeing my small family and handful of close friends

In other countries you have to give your contact details when eating at a restaurant etc so if someone visiting there at the same time becomes ill then they will contact any other diners who were in their vicinity. I wonder if they will start doing that here once pubs etc are allowed to open.

That's a GDPR nightmare waiting to happen.

The risk of transmission is much higher when indoors and mixing households, than being on the beach.

Will you be following the rules with test and trace @LST?

@ineedaholidaynow I don't go anywhere to need to.

@ChewChewIsMySpiritAnimal my understanding is that the GDPR rules can be ignored for test and trace purposes.

But if your close friends are @LST then you may be a contact for them.

@ineedaholiday right.. and if they had symptoms I would know wouldn't I..

I've followed the rules from the start as I'm pregnant. I've now done my 12 weeks but still following the rules. I WFH, I don't go out much. I've ventured into 2 shops in 14 weeks my DH does the shopping. I've seen my parents once in their garden (they're over 70) and I've seen my sister in her garden whilst staying 2m apart. To be honest I'm getting to the point now where I'm starting to think "fuck it". My son is back at nursery where he's not able to social distance and his key worker can hug him but he can't hug his own grand parents or extended family. My mother is desperate to cuddle him. Now single people are allowed to have contact with others and family (and thays great dont get.me wrong i think its a good thing) but we still can't hug our parents or family. I think a lot of people are going to get increasingly pissed off if we aren't allowed more family contact soon

The contact includes 48hours before symptoms started I think.

[quote ineedaholidaynow]@ChewChewIsMySpiritAnimal my understanding is that the GDPR rules can be ignored for test and trace purposes.[/quote]
That'll be a fun (and expensive) legal battle for the government in the future if it's true.

Think they have passed legislation to cover GDPR exemption.

@ineedaholiday I would still know if they had or were now having symptoms though wouldn't I? I'm not going to all of a sudden not speak to 5 people in my life I am closest to. Like I say, i don't go anywhere anyway. So I'll just keep doing what i am doing

I said to my family at the beginning that there was never enough police to enforce the rules. They relied on people observing the rules and neighbours reporting each other. To me, it seems that they over scared the population, in order for people to meekly comply.
The truth is, we are just fed up of it now, because it has gone on too long