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Please help me understand the transgender issue

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Flippetydip · 11/06/2020 10:16

I fully admit that I don't understand this issue fully at all. I consider myself fairly liberal but I do not feel that this is fair. It seems to be the Emperor's new clothes. The fact that the comments towards JKR on Twitter are so full of vitriol does not persuade me towards the thinking of those shouting them.

So my questions:

Emma Watson saying on Twitter
"Transwomen are who they say they are"
If I say I am a size 8, intellectually brilliant woman, does that make me so? (Currently size 12, edging towards a 14 and intellectually fairly mediocre).

What is the difference between appropriation of sex and appropriation of race?
If I say I am black and I'm not, why is that so horrific, and yet if I am a man and say I'm a woman, that is OK?

Why is JKR wrong to say that women menstruate? Surely that is just biological fact.

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JoMumsnet · 11/06/2020 11:54

Hello,

We've had a few reports about posts on this thread (in particular those which contain the term 'cis') and thought now might be a good time to drop in a link to our Mumsnet moderation principles for discussions around gender identity and sex for anyone who's new to this issue.

Here's what our guidelines say:

'It’s clear that most trans people find the use of pronouns or names that they or others have consciously rejected, to be hurtful and would therefore struggle to engage in a discussion with those who insist on using them. The same is true of the expression ‘Trans-Identified Male’ or ‘TIM’. Likewise, many feminists are affronted by the term ‘cis’ and ‘terf’, so using these terms will make civil debate less likely. As we’ve said, context is everything – but it’s likely that going forward our moderation team will delete these expressions.'

We can see that a post which uses this term has been challenged on the thread so we'll leave it for now so the discussion of it makes sense, but please be aware of our Talk Guidelines from hereon in.

Many thanks.

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