[quote TheProdigalKittensReturn]**@giespeace if medicine/science evolves to allow trans women to experience menstrual bleeding would you then accept them as women? Just wondering where the line in science will stand for you?
My question at that point would be why research and development time was being wasted on creating fake periods for emotional validation purposes. The world is full of people suffering from medical conditions that have real, unavoidably physical symptoms and consequences, and would be better served by people capable of medical research focusing on alleviating their actual, physical suffering. Medicine as a whole should not go the way of plastic surgery.
That sort of constant pushing of boundaries and refusal to accept a "no" - but what if we did this? no? well how about this? sure it's not possible but what if? well then if you say no because A then how about if we did B? - would in any other context be recognized as coercive, abusive behavior. No, humans can't change sex. No, the refusal to accept women's first "no" does not mean that you're right, it just means that you don't respect other people's boundaries. No, the vast majority of people aren't buying these arguments and won't no matter how many times you rephrase them. Look at the ratio (here and on any media article that allows comments) if you don't believe me.[/quote]
I totally agree with this as someone suffering from a “fake” illness, which has ruined my life (Chronic fatigue syndrome). Finally finally it is being revisited since it was categorised as psychological in the 80’s by, yes, a man.
Fake wombs and fake bleeding are sexy in the scientific world unlike “fake” illnesses, which disproportionately affect women. And if these transwomen were then able to get pregnant, would this mean they’d need donor eggs? Shudder. On the plus side, they’d have readily available sperm if they decided to freeze samples. Or perhaps even kept their penis.