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To think JK Rowling is a fabulous human being

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TheAdventuresoftheWishingChair · 08/06/2020 08:49

I just came across her book, 'Very Good Lives' which is all about overcoming adversity. I think it's so important that successful women talk about the times they've failed and how success is about pushing past that. I'm reading it just at a time I need to hear that message. I can definitely recommend buying a copy if you are in need of a boost or have some pennies to spend on something nourishing.

I was also looking into her charity, Lumos, and I had no idea just how much she was trying to help disadvantaged children. I love that she's putting her money and position to good use.

The term 'national treasure' generally makes me want to poke my own eyeballs out with a rusty kitchen utensil but AIBU to say she is an utter treasure and we are lucky to have her. She makes the world a better place.

That's all!

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TheProdigalKittensReturn · 09/06/2020 08:20

The unpersoning of women who aren't useful to men as either fuckable or able to provide them with children has a long and deeply misogynistic history. None of this is new, it's just been wokewashed.

DickKerrLadies · 09/06/2020 08:35

@merrymouse

many many women under the age of 25 arguing that a persons sex isn’t an issue and that women aren’t oppressed because of their biology

If you are under 25 you might genuinely believe that you aren't oppressed by biology.

Even when I was 25, which is a couple of decades ago, my female peers were earning more than my male peers. I genuinely thought that sexism was just something old fashioned that would have died out in a few years when we had all reached the top of our career trees. Of course then we had children...

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CaveMum · 09/06/2020 08:54

I think the age thing is very relevant - how many of us between the age of, say, 13 and 21 were utterly convinced that we knew everything and that those boring adults couldn’t possibly understand us?

I’m sure, given another 5-10 years many of these young women will be mortified by their actions and opinions but sadly it will be too late for women (as a whole) by then.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 09/06/2020 09:02

I'm trying not to add to your feeling of being picked on, Wikki, but honestly.

But taken in context.. My point was how does anyone know whether they are sharing what ever space with a transwoman? It was about the ridiculousness of using the feminine ideals as a basis for what a woman should look like - and thus how you can tell they are a transwoman?

So do you then query anyone you have a suspicion about? Do you query every woman who looks butch in your definition of it? Or what?

I meant women who look like a man. I thought that would be quite obvious in the context of this discussion!!!

Are you generally unable to tell the sex of people you don't know without referring to visual cues related to gender stereotypes such as hairstyle, clothing, and so on? Because I've met a lot of butch women in my life and none of them have looked like men. Some people seem to be particularly bad at telling sex by looking at a person (possibly related to faceblindness in general? there seems to be significant overlap), but most people have very little difficulty in discerning the sex of women with buzzcut hair and trousers and a button down shirt on, or men with long hair and clothes generally associated more with women on. In the cases where an initial misidentification is made a second glance and/or the person speaking will usually clear things up.

It shouldn't come as a shock to anyone claiming to speak for kindness and respect for everyone to discover that many people find the idea that butch women are visually indistinguishable from men offensive.

YgritteSnow · 09/06/2020 09:04

I know her joiner he had to sign a confidential document and cant talk about anything to do with her her house or anything else

This is completely standard for celebrities who have public interest. What is this to do with anything?

Lemonyfuckit · 09/06/2020 09:32

@Ickabog and @Merrymouse thank you - I was reading that person's post who was trying to make out I think that the Harry Potter books had racist/fascist/Nazi tendencies (I mean, Christ on a bike, she's apparently a bigoted transphobe, a racist, an anti-Semite, I'm surprised the accusation of Nazi hasn't been levelled yet) and was scratching my head at how spectacularly they appeared to have misunderstood the books. Voldemort and the Death Eaters believed in purity of bloodline, aka 'the baddies'. The 'goodies' abhorred this view and as you said, Harry's power and protection was nothing to do with bloodline and everything to do with love.

CheerfuIPotato · 09/06/2020 09:34

Daniel Radcliffe is an ungrateful treacherous little shitbag 😡

CheerfuIPotato · 09/06/2020 09:35

I’m going to have to come off Twitter. I’m FURIOUS 😡😡😡

SweetPetrichor · 09/06/2020 09:45

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JamieLeeCurtains · 09/06/2020 09:45

There's a disgusting article in the Independent today that completely misrepresents what J K Rowling actually tweeted. I hope she sues.

CaveMum · 09/06/2020 09:49

Aren’t you a delight @SweetPetrichor. Off you go to clean your bedroom before mummy tells you off, there’s a good dear.

ambereeree · 09/06/2020 09:52

I saw a comment on online news article from a man saying JKR was saying what the majority silently think. If this is the case then more men and women need to speak out.

peaceanddove · 09/06/2020 09:58

The ranting behaviour of the aggressively trans fans just reminds me of the furious tantrums my four year old DD had when I patiently explained that, no matter how many Disney dresses and tiaras she wore, she wasn't (and never would be) an actual, real, princess.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 09/06/2020 10:08

The reaction of a lot of young people on Twitter is 100% the behavior of an infant who has just realized that mummy has a life outside of making them happy and who doesn't like it one bit. Toys thrown out of the pram all over the place.

SkaraBrae · 09/06/2020 10:15

I hadn't heard of 'chest cancer'.
I bet women who have had mastectomies are thrilled by that expression....

feelingverylazytoday · 09/06/2020 10:28

@SkaraBrae

I hadn't heard of 'chest cancer'. I bet women who have had mastectomies are thrilled by that expression....
There is a condition known as chest wall cancer. Otherwise tumours in the chest area are described by other terms, breast, lung, etc.
feelingverylazytoday · 09/06/2020 10:32

@TheProdigalKittensReturn

The reaction of a lot of young people on Twitter is 100% the behavior of an infant who has just realized that mummy has a life outside of making them happy and who doesn't like it one bit. Toys thrown out of the pram all over the place.
Yes, I really think we might have gone a bit too far with the child centring style of parenting. I think a bit more balance is needed. No it's not all about you dear.
Smoothyloopy · 09/06/2020 10:42

Jonathan Ross has tweeted his support of JKR

CaveMum · 09/06/2020 10:46

SmoothyLoopy, sadly he backtracked overnight.

CheerfuIPotato · 09/06/2020 11:00

Yeah he chickened out at the last minute.

Alabamawhirly1 · 09/06/2020 11:43

If you are under 25 you might genuinely believe that you aren't oppressed by biology.

When I was under 25 I was so full of internalised misogyny that I didn't think women were discriminated against, and genuinely believed we were treated as equals. I blamed my own rapes sexual assaults and harrasments as part of life and somthing I brought in myself, and not a big deal.

With age comes wisdom and as you get older your ear isn't so easily bent by men and bad boyfriends. I look back on my past now and see how different my life would have been if I had been a man.

StellaRockafella · 09/06/2020 13:24

This was tweeted in support of a Suzanne Moore tweet supporting JKR: ‘ The trans rights movement is like a Trojan horse of misogyny sold to well meaning liberals who think they’re being progressive. Trans rights are fine with me as long as they don’t insist on over riding women’s rights. ’

Nail on head.

AllIMissNowIsTheSea · 09/06/2020 13:53

many many women under the age of 25 arguing that a persons sex isn’t an issue and that women aren’t oppressed because of their biology

If you are under 25 you might genuinely believe that you aren't oppressed by biology.

Even when I was 25, which is a couple of decades ago, my female peers were earning more than my male peers. I genuinely thought that sexism was just something old fashioned that would have died out in a few years when we had all reached the top of our career trees. Of course then we had children.

So well put!

Everything to do with periods and pregnancy impacts women as a sex class - pregnancy and childbearing more than anything career and health wise, and even women who don't have children for whichever reason are impacted on various levels by the expectation they will/ might.

Deadringer · 09/06/2020 13:53

Jkr is a legend. Because she is a rich successful woman she is vilified for having an opinion, and for stating what everyone already knows to be true. This is a great thread and there are two things i have taken from it that i will be using in future. The first one is appropriation, the next time some woke arsehole tells me that twaw, i am going to accuse them of appropriation. The second is when they tell me that transwomen are at risk of being beaten and even killed, i am going to suggest that we should tackle male violence. Because that's what is at the heart of the trans debate really. Transwomen are afraid of harm from violent men, and women are afraid of harm from violent men, which is why we have our own spaces to begin with.

CherryValanc · 09/06/2020 14:17

@StellaRockafella

This was tweeted in support of a Suzanne Moore tweet supporting JKR: ‘ The trans rights movement is like a Trojan horse of misogyny sold to well meaning liberals who think they’re being progressive. Trans rights are fine with me as long as they don’t insist on over riding women’s rights. ’

Nail on head.

Yes, I think it really is.