To wonder why schools are saying they’re not allowed to do live lessons

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Because they’ve just started doing them at my ds’s state secondary. We had to fill in an online permission form. So it is possible after all.

Ah, you've got it LaurieMarlow.

Teachers should be doing their live lessons NOW at 11.30pm while their children are in bed.

Of course.

How come private schools don't have those concerns?

They're only interested in one thing I'm afraid: money.

It's allowed to have nannies, use childminders or a nursery.

Well I’m actually being phased back in to the office as it happens. That’ll be interesting.

My nursery is shut. Most are. Thankfully it’s opening up at the end of the month. Supply of nannies just isn’t there. It only ever catered to a tiny proportion of the population.

Teachers should be doing their live lessons NOW at 11.30pm while their children are in bed.

Well obviously not. Im prepping for my live stuff tomorrow, not delivering it.

It would be a bit trickier if your children were in the years which won't be going back to school before September, no?

Do you mind me asking if you actually have children in school?

So when should teachers be doing their live lessons?

With a 6 month old baby shoved up their jumper and their toddler asking for a snack?

Yep short mat leave, dropped to SMP and can't afford to be off longer. Us teachers on our bloody amazing salaries and great holidays eh!

All professionals trying to WFH without childcare will be finding things tough. Adding unnecessary work in the form of live lessons is not beneficial.

(I'd also wager that the professions you listed are suitably renumerated for equipment they've needed to WFH, probably have a higher proportion of parents who can afford nannies/au pairs, probably have children of school age with devices to access content. Not every house is like this)

I was most puzzled by fire regulations.

A teacher delivering a live class would probably not notice if a fire broke out in the home of any of the children.

Hercwasonaroll yes, 'do the best that you can' seems to be okay for pretty much every other job role.

With a 6 month old baby shoved up their jumper and their toddler asking for a snack?

I’ve certainly had meetings run by people holding a young child throughout.

I'd also wager that the professions you listed are suitably renumerated for equipment they've needed to WFH

I‘m always taken aback by this assumption on here. My business is fighting to survive, revenues down 70%, I’m on 65% of my salary right now.

Lots of people ended up using their own equipment to wfh as we were a very office based company and not everyone had work laptops/phones.

A teacher delivering a live class would probably not notice if a fire broke out in the home of any of the children.

And would that be their responsibility?

'do the best that you can' seems to be okay for pretty much every other job role.

For many businesses that means going under. For many parents that means being top of the pile for redundancies.

LaurieMarlow this is the problem with people who know nothing about how schools work positioning themselves as some sort of expert.

There are so many reasons why holding a young child while you're trying to teach children online just isn't possible or appropriate in a school setting.

It might even be thought that teachers uploading materials when they're able to focus and concentrate better would be a more effective learning experience for the children.

There are so many reasons why holding a young child while you're trying to teach children online just isn't possible or appropriate in a school setting.

It’s not appropriate in any setting really. But it’s people’s reality right now.

No, it's really, really not appropriate in a school setting.

In the same sort of way that an employee wearing their nightwear in an online meeting isn't appropriate in any work setting, but would be really, really inappropriate in a setting with children.

It does make sense now why you just can't understand what teachers and others have been saying to you on multiple threads. You have little to no awareness of how schools work.

You have little to no awareness of how schools work.

I’m not sure how much water this argument holds when plenty of schools can and are delivering live teaching.

Private and state.

I’ve certainly had meetings run by people holding a young child throughout

I've attended staff meetings like this and it's fine.

I would not want my child on video to students. Would you accept a doctors appointment with a child on screen? Nevermind the chance of me being turned into a meme, I certainly don't want my child to be.

Pretty much every post you write backs it up, Laurie.

Do you mind me asking if you have school aged children?

plenty of schools can and are delivering live teaching.

Last teacher tapp survey was less than 10% of state schools offering live lessons

Is there a reason you haven't responded about students being able to access live lessons?

Your business also has the option to furlough staff.

Do you mind me asking if you have school aged children?

Yep. 6 year old. His school is providing 2 worksheets a week. No feedback. He hasn’t heard or seen his teacher for about 8 weeks.

There we have it.... Your child's school is shit, ergo every other teacher is shit.

It sounds like your problem is with your child's school then.

Is there a reason you haven't responded about students being able to access live lessons?

Live lessons can be archived.

In terms of tech access, there are issues to overcome in many places absolutely.

However, my sons school has exactly the same type of intake as another school down the road. All very middle class, tech access not a problem in the main.

The other school can provide some live lessons (plus other creative teaching methods, lots of video) and ours can’t. I don’t understand why that is.

Your child's school is shit, ergo every other teacher is shit

I have categorically never said that. Some schools are delivering really well. Others absolutely aren’t.