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AIBU to be surprised Carole Baskin got the zoo?

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MRex · 03/06/2020 23:23

I thought Jeff Lowe had persuaded Joe Exotic to hand the zoo over to him. Then he closed it for the new zoo. But surely it was his zoo and not Joe Exotic's mum's zoo. What did I miss? Thanks

For those who missed the news: www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/entertainment-arts-52888484

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CayrolBaaaskin · 03/06/2020 23:29

I think Joes attempt to avoid the judgement by handing the zoo to his parents was set aside. So he had to transfer it to Carol to sartisfy the judgement.

Smallsteps88 · 03/06/2020 23:32

Yes I also thought it was jeff Lowes now. He had completely taken it over. Joe exotic had taken some animals from it in the cover of darkness and fled with his new husband to some undisclosed location and given the animals to new homes. Jeff Lowe has brought in a construction crew and was building all sorts of new stuff.

Unless that was also some sort of scheme to prevent carol bask in getting it?

Fluffybutter · 03/06/2020 23:33

Doesn’t really matter . The place needs to be torn down and those poor animals looked after properly

gingajewel · 03/06/2020 23:36

I always thought Carole and Jeff were in it together tbh! Set joe up so that Jeff could get the zoo, knowing full well it would go to Carole! If joe wasn’t in prison there is no way on earth Carole would get the zoo off him!

Pintsizedblondie197 · 03/06/2020 23:36

I think she managed to get it because she challenged their actions of putting the zoo in Jeff Lowe's name as she thought that was done so it couldn't be taken into account when he was made to pay her the $1 million in damages.

MRex · 03/06/2020 23:37

@CayrolBaaaskin - that's what it says, but if he gave the zoo to his parents then how did Jeff Lowe come to be running it?

@Fluffybutter - very true.

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Smallsteps88 · 03/06/2020 23:38

It doesn’t really affect JE really. Whether she has the zoo now or not doesn’t affect his life so it’s hardly the painful lesson it was meant to be.

MoreSchnitzelPlease · 03/06/2020 23:38

The transfer of property to Joe's mother was deemed fraudulent by the court, it was done deliberately to prevent the property rightfully going to Carole Baskin. I think Baskin gets the land and buildings, but not the animals in this ruling. I dread to think what will happen to them.

Joe Exotic is a despicable man, the narrative around this whole situation is bizarre. He abuses his animals, but that doesn't seem to be an issue for the many people who support him. It is mystifying how anyone could support him. He is the villain in this story.

Smallsteps88 · 03/06/2020 23:41

I think Baskin gets the land and buildings, but not the animals in this ruling. I dread to think what will happen to them.

Oh that’s really disappointing. She’s about the best of the bad bunch when it comes to looking after the animals so I’d have thought she’d be the obvious choice to have the animals. I wonder why they didn’t give her those too. There can’t have been much value in the animals.

Smallsteps88 · 03/06/2020 23:43

He abuses his animals, but that doesn't seem to be an issue for the many people who support him. It is mystifying how anyone could support him.

People love being entertained and he has huge entertainment value. The hard of thinking made him into a legend because he makes them laugh. It makes whatever else he does irrelevant. There’s also the fact that his target was a woman. Loads of people love him for that alone.

MRex · 04/06/2020 07:21

Do people actually like him? The documentary series to clearly make everyone out to be a villain, apart from the original documentary maker and probably Carole (though some questions over her treatment of humans, especially all the volunteers, it came across as highly manipulative). I thought the take-away was that there's nobody normal to be found who works with big cats. Which I might have expected if I had ever had time to think about it.

Didn't Jeff Lowe already move the animals to his new zoo that he got the guy with the monkey to build?

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WaterOffADucksCrack · 04/06/2020 08:09

I think they're all awful people. Caroles "sanctuary" wasn't a sanctuary at all. It's the animals I feel sorry for. I also felt a bit sorry for some staff of the zoo and the volunteers. And the teenagers Joe preyed upon. What happened to Travis was sad.

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