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To think this procrastinating about school reopening is going to cause more deaths and long term issues than CV

259 replies

whenthejoyreturns · 01/06/2020 08:40

Credit due to all the schools that have worked hard and found inventive ways to open this week. I know of some that have sent positive messages to parents and managed to reassure them that their dc won’t be traumatised by the experience.
What’s preventing all schools doing this? Our local primary has sent an email basically telling parents they will be committing murder if their dc step anywhere near school. Unsurprisingly they’ve decided they’re not ready to open yet. This is a modern school, all classrooms have doors to outside and are large and airy. The deputy head’s dc has diabetes and I believe she doesn’t want to open because of her personal circumstances.
AIBU to think schools are not thinking about children and the negative impact this is bound on thousands. I believe many will never recover from this.

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PeskyEdith · 01/06/2020 09:09

@canigooutyet

Parents could volunteer to keep the couple of classes open. Shouldn’t be hard to manage 15 kids and keep them away from each other.
That's what teachers are paid for.
Tfoot75 · 01/06/2020 09:11

I think it's pretty obvious the difference between playground equipment that could be touched by hundreds of children per day and thousands per week and is never washed, and preschool play equipment touched by a bubble of 8 children, none of whom have any symptoms. Yes there's a remote chance one could be asymptomatic (bound to happen somewhere in the country, but is definitely not going to be a common occurrence due to current community rates).

If you don't want to send your kids, don't send them! It isn't rocket science, lots of people can see the risk is tiny and need childcare to get back to work.

SylvanianFrenemies · 01/06/2020 09:11

YABU and ridiculous. If you are spouting views like "I believe many will never recover from this" goodness knows what environment you are creating for your own kids. Calm down and get on with it.

formerbabe · 01/06/2020 09:12

I'm amazed how many parents think it won't be safe for children to return to school. I'm not talking about those with vulnerable family members but those who think their otherwise healthy children will be in danger.

Are they really so dim they can't understand statistics?

Children are statistically more at risk from traffic on their journey to school.

snowballer · 01/06/2020 09:18

My Y1 child has gone in this morning and it was brilliantly organised. Staff were fantastic - his usual teacher and TA both greeting them with beaming smiles and telling the children how happy they were to see them. At least 20 out of the 30 are back in so a good turnout.

lazylinguist · 01/06/2020 09:19

What a load of rubbish. How on earth would it benefit heads or teachers to indulge in 'political point scoring'?

The poster who (very sensibly) said that the decision won't have been based on your deputy head and their child wasn't saying that the opening of schools is not the head's decision, as you seemed to be implying.

Schools have to look at their own individual situations in terms of class sizes, staffing, classroom space etc and make the best decision they can. Parents are not party to the details and therefore are in no real position to judge.

Any parent wanting to keep their children off school that’s your choice but many want schools to start reopening.

Sorry, but it's not about what parents want. Plenty of people want pubs, restaurants and hairdressers' to open too. But presumably, as with shops and schools, their ability to open will be based on their individual ability to open safely.

canigooutyet · 01/06/2020 09:19

How can this be compared to what happens during civil unrest?

I doubt kids since WWII take gas masks and go into shelters when the bombs were going off etc. The countries that were bombing and shooting each other not long ago, aren’t opening up schools.

justdontatme · 01/06/2020 09:22

Our headteacher rang parents to warn them it would be detrimental to the children’s mental health to return to school. I am really angry!

canigooutyet · 01/06/2020 09:23

I would prefer pubs and restaurants to open before schools.

Yes I am aware that teachers are paid. Parents could volunteer to open the ones government guidelines prevent opening if it’s all so easy

whenthejoyreturns · 01/06/2020 09:24

I think most schools thought they would be shut until September and by hook or by crook that’s what they’re trying to do, sod the vulnerable families or even those at breaking point trying to work from home. If some schools are managing so well they all should be.

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whenthejoyreturns · 01/06/2020 09:25

@canigooutyet are you a teacher?Hmm

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canigooutyet · 01/06/2020 09:29

Many educational psychologists are also saying the same about mh.
During the closure mental health was also a concern and guidelines focused on this.

Experts around the world are talking about it. Schools that have been opened abroad are closely monitored and are closing quickly. This will be the norm across the globe for a long time.

user1471448556 · 01/06/2020 09:29

So sick of these ‘bash the teachers’ threads.

Sindragosan · 01/06/2020 09:29

I don't see how schools not reopening is causing deaths? Tad alarmist to be honest. Around here, the schools that are open won't be full as many are keeping children at home, and no one seems to think an extra couple of months with parents is detrimental long term Hmm

HipTightOnions · 01/06/2020 09:29

I think most schools thought they would be shut until September and by hook or by crook that’s what they’re trying to do

You are mistaken, then.

Ginandbearit1 · 01/06/2020 09:30

I agree OP. I think schools thought closed until September, six month paid holiday.

canigooutyet · 01/06/2020 09:30

No I’m not. Why?

HipTightOnions · 01/06/2020 09:31

I think schools thought closed until September, six month paid holiday.

You are also mistaken. Teachers have been working throughout.

canigooutyet · 01/06/2020 09:31

Haha you don’t think teachers at home are at breaking point?
Schools were geared up to open after the Easter holiday

AllTheUserNamesAreTaken · 01/06/2020 09:31

@canigooutyet oh do give over with the ‘school’s not childcare’. It gets very tiresome when people wilfully misunderstand that many parents are only able to work because children are at school and they use wraparound care.

I’m happy to make childcare arrangements as I do in the holidays. I’ll just book the holiday club and phone my Mum and sister to see if they were thinking of taking DS out any days. Oh wait, there’s a problem with that. Wonder what it could be Hmm

canigooutyet · 01/06/2020 09:32

OMG 6 months paid holiday. That is sooo funny.

Ginandbearit1 · 01/06/2020 09:37

@canigooutyet I cant speak for all teachers, but my friends who are teachers haven't been working much Grin one day a week keyworker care, half an hour to upload home learning links. Some also doing tutoring privately

PeskyEdith · 01/06/2020 09:37

@user1471448556

So sick of these ‘bash the teachers’ threads.
And I'm sick of not being able to discuss my child's education provision without being accused of teacher bashing. Don't try and shut parents up on a parenting website.
canigooutyet · 01/06/2020 09:37

School is not childcare it is there to provide formal education. Well it wasn’t until schools were shut down and their role was changed from teaching to carer.

I do understand the logistics of working. I’m a single parent who has children with sn plus my own health issues.

It also relies on parents being honest. First sign of symptoms stay at home. Many don’t bother when little Johnny has a stomach bug or whatever

Khione · 01/06/2020 09:38

@whenthejoyreturns

Credit due to all the schools that have worked hard and found inventive ways to open this week. I know of some that have sent positive messages to parents and managed to reassure them that their dc won’t be traumatised by the experience. What’s preventing all schools doing this? Our local primary has sent an email basically telling parents they will be committing murder if their dc step anywhere near school. Unsurprisingly they’ve decided they’re not ready to open yet. This is a modern school, all classrooms have doors to outside and are large and airy. The deputy head’s dc has diabetes and I believe she doesn’t want to open because of her personal circumstances. AIBU to think schools are not thinking about children and the negative impact this is bound on thousands. I believe many will never recover from this.
Sorry op

I totally agree with you. 3 under 15 deaths and 7,000 (ish) under 65. Doesn't seem like a good enough reason to me. But you will not get much support on here.

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