When the looting starts, the shooting starts.

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Can you believe that Trump has just tweeted this comment? He is talking about the protests about George Floyd's death. He has also called the protestors "thugs".

Twitter has put a warning on his twitter post, saying that it "glorifies violence". It is also racist!

The "historical context" is a reference to the late 1960s, when the phrase "when the looting starts, the shooting starts" was coined by Miami Police Chief Walter Headley, in reference to his aggressive policing policies in black neighbourhoods.

Why haven’t they been arrested yet? They will be, won’t they

Watching that CNN video - I think any reasonable person can get a measure of the situation. And it isn't anything POCs are doing wrong.

Trump enjoys it
it makes him feel Powerful

I said at the start of his presidency he'd be the first POTUS (in modern times at least) to order troops to open fire on his own citizens. And I knew those citizens would not be white ones.

And as my husband has said, Trumps success is that he has given people 'permission to hate'.

*And this has really made me appreciate the UK police.

They go out each day armed only with their reasoning*

I have a lot of respect for our police force but Jean Charles da Silva e de Menezes might have had argument with the idea they are only armed with reasoning. If he were alive.

Someone online said the target that was looted is unpopular in the area due to having a forensics team within the store to catch shop lifters and that team offers their support to the PD for free, and that the community feels unfairly scrutinised for shoplifting within that store.

I'd "resist arrest" if I hadn't done anything wrong.

And procedure was not followed.

A man was suffocated to death over nine minutes. That's murder.

Well if you don't steal, loot or use fake money to buy things you won't get shot.

Careful, that reads like you think they’re legitimate reasons to be shot 🙄

Anyone who says violent protests don't change anything needs to learn some history.

American Revolution? French Revolution? Haitian Revolution? Bolshevik Revolution? Ring any bells?

The civil rights movement in the US included a lot of non-violent protest, yes (or we should say, non-violent on the part of the protesters, who often ended up being beaten half to death). But the violence and riots were also important motivating factors for change.

It's so incredibly sanctimonious to say people should just take whatever violence and brutality is dished out on them.

Well if you don't steal, loot or use fake money to buy things you won't get shot.

Except you will. Jogging down the street. Sitting in your own apartment.

I think you need to educate yourself.

@lonelyfemale

Well if you don't steal, loot or use fake money to buy things you won't get shot. The police officer has probably heard every excuse under the sun from suspects as to why he shouldn't arrest them ans if he was resisting arrest then that would raise suspicion further.

Better not own a hairbrush, that’ll get you shot too.

The whole world watched a man being slowly murdered, it is sickening that the perpetrators have not been arrested. But that is the US, the racist divide is beyond comprehension.

Trump and his vile tweets, riling and bullying people, are beyond anything you could expect from a normal human being.

On a slight tangent, I wonder why restraining someone by kneeling on their neck is allowed at all; I don't understand these things, but it seems a stupid thing to do by any analysis

Apparently it's banned elsewhere in Minnesota but allowed just in Minneapolis, which seems a bit odd too

@Moondust001 Absolutely agree with all you state.

Sadly, Trump will win re-election on the back of this.

Well if you don't steal, loot or use fake money to buy things you won't get shot
OMG it sounds like you want to live in a country where you can be executed on the streets😱
Who would want to live in a primitive barbaric backward culture like that😱

@lonelyfemale no wonder you're lonely with an attitude like that

Here here **astrogirl99 Very good comparison with the HK protests. The choice of language used towards black people has always been entirely different.

Peaceful protests dont seem to work unfortunately. Remember only a few years ago when people quietly protested to prevent the war in Iraq here...it just fell on deaf ears. Black people have every right to be angry at this point. If I were black living there, I'd be looking to leave the country immediately. How anybody could think it's a suitable place to raise their children is beyond me.

For those dismissing Trump's comment as 'oh it's typical Trump', IMO he's worse than ever (probably borne out of desperation due to having no control with covid) and lacks any of the qualities needed to be a president. In any other job he would have been fired. It's clear that he's asscountable to noone particularly his advisors. This entire situation is a disgrace. It's just so upsetting and I thank God that I don't live there.

Honestly, it's like watching the USA from afar in 1850. As in "wtf is going on in that place"?

Here's a question. There are so many "right (correct) thinking" White people in the US. Where are they? Nowhere. They're nowhere. When it comes down to it, they'll tut tut tut and do nothing.

And Joe Biden will continue to do nothing and yet expect the Black vote because "they aren't Black if they don't vote Democrat". So, to Biden, Black people get a vote but only if they do as they're told. Smug, entitled useless twat.

There is no political element, left or right, who truly has the back of Black people in the US and that was exactly what led to the effective activism of the 60s. I believe we are about to see the next Civil Rights Movement and not before time.

It's so incredibly sanctimonious to say people should just take whatever violence and brutality is dished out on them

It would be if anyone said it, yes, but I've not seen anyone do so on here - what they have said is that looting's no kind of answer to anything

Sadly there are hideous racists who try to suggest black people are just a bunch of undisciplined thugs who there's no point in trying to help. Nobody with any sense wants to encourage idiots like this, but unfortunately some of the current activities play right into their hands

I would have thought it was a banned restraint anywhere @Puzzledandpissedoff,when I was a,mental health Nurse we were taught to restrain safely and it was drummed into.us that if somebody had to be restrained On their front we had to get them on their back asap

When there's already huge amount of stress and tension it's very easy to trigger people into irrational behaviour

@lonelyfemale You and your attitude are the problem.
It is your attitude that empowered a white policies officer to feel perfectly justified in kneeling on a mans neck until the life drained from his body.
It is people like you who express more outrage at the actions of looters than the actions of racist police officers that cause people to riot in the first place. Go away.

Petitioning hasn't worked. Peaceful protesting hasn't worked. Kneeling hasn't worked. Lobbying governments hasn't worked. And you wonder why people are looting?? No justice, no peace. It speaks for itself.

I would have thought it was a banned restraint anywhere

So would I, x2boys, but apparently not
I've no idea how many others states or cities allow it - I wouldn't even know where to look - but despite the supposed training "to avoid compressing the airway" it seems to me a pretty risky manoeuvre