To think at this point they may as well just end lockdown?

[Ursula2001]

I'm not one of those corona moaners that gets enraged about people meeting two friends rather than the stipulated one for a socially distanced walk. Or people that sit in the garden with a mate rather than go to a busy park.

However, after returning to work a few weeks back I've noticed things change massively since the rules were relaxed. Of course, this was to be expected and the DC saga hasn't helped, but it seems that people are now pretty much going about their summer holidays as they usually would, aside from a bit of social distancing and not being able to go to the pub (although I've seen a good few people drinking pints in pub gardens this week, which makes me assume some pubs are allowing customers to drink their takeout on the premises - maybe this is a loophole as the bar is still technically closed).

I'm just not sure many people would be at much greater risk in a socially distanced office now after seeing the throngs of people out today. It would be better for the economy and from a selfish POV better for people like me - I've been out with our truck drivers doing site assessments this week and most of our customers are absolutely heaving (we do a lot of newsagents and supermarkets etc). Trying to park the wagon has been a nightmare and today's driver said that the daytime is pretty much as busy as normal now as lots of people who'd usually be at work are out buying booze and drinking it in the park. Certainly, a large proportion of people seemed to be walking out with packs of beer today (can tell from the way they stretch the plastic bag).

I'd sooner see these people back at work than thronging around the town centre, but of course that's a vested interested on my part. But for sure people are still just as cunty on the road as ever! All this saucepan bashing for key workers last night but nobody seems able to wait 30 secs for a truck to complete a manoeuvre without laying on the horn (too desperate to get back and drink the stuff we deliver!).

NoIdon't watchLoveIsland

Thanks for your post - I wondered as much. I am not medically trained but felt the same way as much of your post....

The risk is quite low for the vast majority and life needs to return to something getting closer and closer to normal apart from all but the very vulnerable .... and I say that being in the very vulnerable group myself. I don't think the masses should suffer more than necessary for me and similar... we need to take extra care but people have to get back to living and working

NoIDontWatchLoveIsland

This is exactly how my friends and colleagues think.

07RoxyTheProssie. I get your point and go round in circles myself thinking it is madness that so many lives are disrupted for what is an illness which will impact very few younger healthy people if they catch it. I just don't think out hospitals can cope if too many people go back to living as before lockdown and more infections ceil equal more hospitalizations. I'm happy with this gradual lifting but would prefer it if we'd got out rates of infection right down first. I don't trust the government to be acting in the best interests of the public and I'd find a later full lockdown more disruptive than this one being loosened too soon, at a time when Dominic Cummings has given people a green light to flout guidance and do what they like.

YANBU. The DC saga finally did it for me, we have been religiously following the lock down “rules”, forget about not seeing granny, I have not seen my bloody partner in 2 months and for what, so the dear over 60 we are so much trying to protect have no problems in brushing against you repeatedly in the supermarket? So we have a perennial Easter Sunday with masses of people gathering in parks? Honestly, we are only missing the Easter eggs in this lovely holiday called furlough...

I just don’t give a shit anymore, people will continue to die at the same rhythm as people are not really keeping the distances during lock down and I much rather get CV from my partner than from someone’s grandpa or runner who doesn’t see the need to keep away more than a foot.

I will obviously continue to do my best to keep the 2m distance and will stay at home if I am feeling unwell/have symptoms but, if I am asymptomatic and anyone chooses to come and stand next to me, no matter how much I am trying to avoid them, And get it... fuck them, it is their fault, what else can I do?

It is too late to come with a nice plan that it is safe and works with the economy when the virus is already all over the place. There is no going back with out screwing health, economy, or better said... both.

Plenty are still sticking to it - you just cant see us because we are in our houses!

@SerendipitySunshine That struck me today too. A high proportion of those mingling outdoors will be those who 'don't believe in COVID 19', and the like. (That's a direct quote from someone who stood right behind me in the supermarket queue at the height of lockdown)

They won't maintain social distancing. You can't argue with stupid. I'm still staying in/away from busy areas, to avoid them.

YABU. Even if we are less distant than before, we are still being more distant as a population than we would normally be, so it's still worth doing. Whether it's enough to keep R under 1, I have my concerns about, but it's definitely better than acting as normal. And people aren't all acting as normal. My friend saw her girlfriend for the first time since March yesterday. They kept 2m apart.

YABU. Even if we are less distant than before, we are still being more distant as a population than we would normally be.

Yes, I agree that people are keeping their distance a bit more when possible, by there are areas which are undoubtedly busier atm than they would be if everyone was working, and my observation is that a lot of these people are buying booze etc from places where you can't really distance effectively (corner shops etc).

but there are that should be

I don’t really understand why allowing people to see 5 others and move around a bit more is the same as just going back to how we were before. There’s still no large gatherings, there’s still no sports spectators, there’s no beer gardens, theatres, cinema. There’s still a vastly reduced opportunity for people to actually mix with lots of strangers.

@MNHQ where's all the OPs posts gone?

@PrimeroseHillAnnie

I work for the NHS and still see what Covid can do first hand so perhaps I have a different perspective on this - so I will continue to follow the medical and scientific advice until there is an effective vaccine or no reported case of infection for 3 months. I also intend to find another job , hopefully in hospital or clinical administration. I guess it’s like being in a war, unless you were there you really don’t even have s clue. But that’s just my opinion, based on first hand experience.

Ok I am always really sceptical about these posts tbh

Glad its nearly all over, I have to return to Work soon.
Yes I’m avoiding the coast, I think the lack of loos open is a big issue, more so, than the virus.
Some will get others will no, we have no means of knowing yet, and a vaccine is too far away