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AIBU?

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to think that children aren't people...

134 replies

BumpBundle · 28/05/2020 17:33

My son is 11mo. We were planning on having a birthday party for him inviting my parents, my sister and BIL, my SIL and her husband, four godparents and MIL and FIL. We're thinking a picnic so we're outside, can bring our own food and maintain social distancing.
Obviously this is too many people - only being allowed up to 6. However, it would work quite well to do three separate picnics.

  1. My mum, my dad, my husband, me, my sister, my brother in law = 6 people.
  2. Four godparents, my husband, me = 6 people.
  3. My sister-in-law, her husband, my father-in-law, his wife, my husband, me = 6 people.
Unfortunately, this perfect plan is somewhat scuppered if we allow my son to attend his own first birthday party. AIBU to have seven people if one of them is only one year old, from our household and obviously will be socially distanced from the others?
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Epigram · 28/05/2020 18:03

It's fine OP.

BumpBundle · 28/05/2020 18:05

@ArriettyJones So, it's nothing to do with whether there are six or seven people? You just think it's "bonkers" to meet up with people on three separate occasions? (Which is obviously allowed under the guidelines).

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ArriettyJones · 28/05/2020 18:05

The chances of him having the infection without me or my husband having it are near-impossible and he won't be close enough to spread the infection to anyone else even if he did have it...

(Forgot to address that bit)

The ADULTS!! Stop obsessing about the baby. Whether the baby is a person....Whether the baby is infected...How many picnics the baby wants...Grin

You’re saying you are going to organise three picnics, on three successive days, for three groups of adults, any of whom might be infected.

The baby is neither here not there. The baby won’t even know it is having a birthday. Smile

BeforeIPutOnMyMakeup · 28/05/2020 18:05

If you don't allow your son to walk then he doesn't count.

No need to post a thread. Every time you have a question involving your child and Covid-19, channel your inner Cummings and do what he would do. Remember rules are for little people! And never apologise if asked multiple times.

Toilenstripes · 28/05/2020 18:06

@BumpBundle I try to be helpful! 😆

WorraLiberty · 28/05/2020 18:06

Isn't the baby going to get confused at all these people cooing and ahh-ing but not being able to get nearer than 6 feet?

I know when my DC were that age, they'd stretch both their arms out for GPs/Aunts/Uncles etc to hold them and cry if they couldn't.

tolerable · 28/05/2020 18:07

wow!!!!!!!!!!!! wowwwwwww!yes,! is a great big deal.Huge milestone.
i really do get that.
youwant to do all you can you can ALL celebrate 2??
you baby daddy n any siblings video the cake n candles to the multi infect crossover division.they can whassap?video celebrate song.
for fucksake0if this dizni emphasize why too soon for lockdown ease what will???????/you gony have to 7days minimum isolaye post anyone you let into yout bubble.not stagger the spread in a lunatic accordance of rulekeeping.
am reaally sorry-cos i really do understand babestars first birthday being the focus for you.many happy returns.
stayfunkinsafe

BumpBundle · 28/05/2020 18:08

@ArriettyJones I never said three successive days... Probably at weekends because I work full time. And it's a good theory to stop thinking about my son. You're absolutely correct. Here I was thinking picnics weren't excessive but it's basically equivalent to buying him a sports car... Hmm

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ArriettyJones · 28/05/2020 18:08

You just think it's "bonkers" to meet up with people on three separate occasions? (Which is obviously allowed under the guidelines).

It’s bonkers to hold three birthday celebrations for a one year old, yes.

Obviously, it’s allowed under the guidelines. That’s why you’re doing it this way, isn’t it? To get around the guidelines? Grin That doesn’t make it less bonkers.

Bluetrews25 · 28/05/2020 18:09

Many one year olds can walk, the rest will probably be able to crawl. Can you guarantee he will not just go up to someone? And those GPs are so not going to be able to resist picking him up. Yes, he may well be 'clean' but all your visitors may not be.

ArriettyJones · 28/05/2020 18:09

And it's a good theory to stop thinking about my son. You're absolutely correct. Here I was thinking picnics weren't excessive but it's basically equivalent to buying him a sports car... hmm

So that’s a “Yes” to “PFB?” then? 😏

Blossom513 · 28/05/2020 18:10

This is the same problem single parents have had with the 'you can meet ONE person from another household' rule. Debate about it children counted because we can't leave them with a partner. The official response from government advisors was its clear - no gatherings of more than two people (now six) from different households. Children count, they are people, just little.

BumpBundle · 28/05/2020 18:10

@WorraLiberty I know when my DC were that age, they'd stretch both their arms out for GPs/Aunts/Uncles etc to hold them and cry if they couldn't.
Unfortunately not being able to see anyone for months upon months means he's pretty attached to just me and my husband.

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ArfArfBarf · 28/05/2020 18:10

I think holding three separate parties within a short space of time is within the letter, but not the spirit, of the law. Imagine if you later tested positive for coronavirus and has to give a list of all the people you’d socialised with for contact tracing!

MilkTrayLimeBarrel · 28/05/2020 18:11

For goodness' sake, the child is hardly likely to remember who was at its first birthday party. Just wait a couple of years and have a proper party.

A82971151 · 28/05/2020 18:12

I don’t think separating a large group of people into family groups of 6 doesn’t make it better to be honest 🤣 🤦‍♀️

You are all still meeting up together.

But people haven’t been following the guidelines for weeks anyway and doing what they want so it seems you can do whatever you want like other people seem to be doing!

BumpBundle · 28/05/2020 18:12

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Blossom513 · 28/05/2020 18:12

*debates about IF

NuffSaidSam · 28/05/2020 18:13

'That’s why you’re doing it this way, isn’t it? To get around the guidelines?

Having three separate picnics on different days isn't 'getting round' the guidelines it's sticking to them!

You can have as many picnics as you want as long as they don't exceed 6 people and everyone socially distances.

BumpBundle · 28/05/2020 18:13

@A82971151 Hi, we wouldn't be meeting up all together. These are three separate picnics on three separate days with three separate groups.

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Thisismeimabitch · 28/05/2020 18:13

You lost me at My son is 11mo. We were planning on having a birthday party

ArriettyJones · 28/05/2020 18:14

You definitely need to look up PFB, and if you don’t want opinions on holding three picnics to celebrate first birthday, pandemic-style, don’t come onto Mumsnet and post asking for opinions. 🤷🏽‍♀️

Thisismeimabitch · 28/05/2020 18:14

and ‘PFB’ means ‘precious firstborn’

thefuriousfuggler · 28/05/2020 18:15

PFB means precious first born

Bluetrews25 · 28/05/2020 18:15

PFB = perfect/precious first born
Lots of go a bit nuts with the first one and can behave strangely.