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To Think some schools won’t reopen in September

209 replies

Lardlizard · 26/05/2020 10:04

Yanbu if you agree

Because so many school are not reopening for year r,1 and 6 in June

Because of reasons such as a quarter of the staff are shielding etc, so how on earth will they we able to reopen all years in sept
They will still have the same staff in September

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Drivingdownthe101 · 26/05/2020 14:30

Plus I’m also trying to educate/entertain a 4 year old (reception) and care for a 16 month old at the same time. So yeah, maybe you’re a better parent than me but I’m struggling to educate them.

Bollss · 26/05/2020 14:30

You might be one of those parents who need to boast about their children writing and reading fluently when they start reception

Ffs what is wrong with you? Where have I said this?

PafLeChien · 26/05/2020 14:32

*Worriedaboutthefuture1

And no, many schools and teachers are NOT providing enough work for children at home. Nor are they checking it or providing feedback.

then take it up with your own school, academy or local authority.
Many other schools DO provide more than enough work for the children and associated feedback.

Some of us are actually grateful of a much needed week off from schooling, because the kids have not stopped! And when you work FT on top of it, you need a break.

Drivingdownthe101 · 26/05/2020 14:33

Oh yeah, and I’m working as well as educating a 6 and 4 year old and caring for a 16 month old.

PafLeChien · 26/05/2020 14:33

TrustTheGeneGenie

I was just wondering. You are happy that your child has already mastered all the skills he needs to start school, so not sure what part of schooling and education you think he 's actually missing out.

Drivingdownthe101 · 26/05/2020 14:35

How old are your children Paf?

Bollss · 26/05/2020 14:36

Socialisation for one! And they learn all the time when they're round other kids! The women who work in his nursery are actually qualified which I am not.

I am doing what I can but I'm not s substitute for nursery. Personally I think most people who think they are are kidding themselves.

Kids need other kids and some kids don't have siblings.

PafLeChien · 26/05/2020 14:37

Personally I think most people who think they are are kidding themselves.

your child is 4 years old! I despair.

stayingaliveisawayoflife · 26/05/2020 14:38

I think primaries will be fully open when they open retail on the 15th June. I would prefer fully open than all the faffing around trying to meet a million and one directives!

Bollss · 26/05/2020 14:41

your child is 4 years old! I despair

Why?

Why have the government created funded hours for TWO YEAR OLDS from poorer households if socialisation doesn't matter??

Well??

RaraRachael · 26/05/2020 14:42

I am noticing a considerable tailing off of interest in the work I'm providing in my online classroom this week - and we've still another 5 weeks to go till the end of term.

That doesn't bode well for having online learning as part of the set-up when we go back in August.

Blackbear19 · 26/05/2020 14:49

I hope schools are back to some form of normal by August / September. Even if it means some sort of temporary classrooms within other buildings / office blocks etc

It will be a disaster if it's not, furlough payments are to be cut in August. Employers will be thinking now we either get people back to work or lay them off. While schools aren't childcare. Employees can't get back without children in school catch22.

Nicola better get some better ideas than her 'Blended learning' pish.

Kezmum14 · 26/05/2020 14:50

We’ve had an email from my dc secondary school saying they expect phased yr 7, 11 and 13 from September meaning my dc in Year 8 won’t be going back. Not sure how long the passing will take but at least we’ve been forewarned.

Kezmum14 · 26/05/2020 14:50

Phasing not passing

FourTeaFallOut · 26/05/2020 14:51

I think primaries will be fully open when they open retail on the 15th June.

So, you do you really think all social distancing measures will be thrown out the window by June 15th Or, is that just your preference?

Keepdistance · 26/05/2020 14:56

I think school should have been offered to KW/2 working parent families and then SAHP offered PT.
They say the biggest difference is reading so as long as parents are getting them to soend 20-30min a day thats the most important (and that is more than is done at school).

Bitesize is actually pretty good. Dd has learnt maps/stonehenge/latitude/plants etc.
I think it depends on the child 90% have their confidence knocked at school.

Drivingdownthe101 · 26/05/2020 14:59

90% have their confidence knocked at school

Where is that statistic from?

BogRollBOGOF · 26/05/2020 15:01

BogRollBOGOF
I completely disagree. Children are missing hugely on their social life and friendship, and all the fun parts of a school day, as well as most of their sporting activities.

Most schools send enough work, and there are enough resources online that there's enough to educate them from home. Most kids would be lost in a class of 30+ children! Let's be realistic on what state schools actually offer shall we.

The social aspect and everything else, that is missing badly. For adults too!

My autistic, dyslexic, dyspraxic 9 yo needs that socialisation of school to learn. He looks at a worksheet, has a panic attack and melts down. I can fill his head with facts from documentaries, but in some parts of the curriculum he is behind, like still struggling to remember how to write his name accurately behind. He needs the role modelling of his peers to copy, to bounce ideas off. He masks his way through a school day to function and I get the fall out at home. A school day is not easy for him, but it is important experience in how to function in society and I cannot replicate that at home.

Unfortunately for him, the rest of his life will not be spent on the sofa watching the Smithsonian Channel and playing Minecraft, he needs to remember how to function in a busy world full of sensory input and the longer he is off school, the harder it will be to reintegrate into society. He hasn't got the social skills to handle talking to his friends on the phone or on Zoom and he can't manually process the non-verbal cues in that way.

Nursery was criticical for him as it was the main place where he got his SALT input. I modelled appropriately at home, but he had to manually learn to interact with children of his own age group, something that still isn't easy today. His key worker was brilliant at creating play situations to teach him how to construct a sentence, something that I have no expertise in other than positively modelling language which was not enough. When he was discharged in y1, the therapist was astounded by his progress, largely due to the input through school and nursery.

The early years are vital at closing potential gaps in a child's background be it from SEN, socio-economic status or experience of some kind of trauma.

The toll of schools being off is far greater across the school populayion than the risks of Covid 19. Children deserve their routines, friendship groups and a proper professional education.

Nihiloxica · 26/05/2020 15:05

Excellent post, BogRoll

stayingaliveisawayoflife · 26/05/2020 15:06

I'm a primary school teacher. We know social distancing isn't going to happen. I already have my classroom ready with wipes, soap, hand gel etc for my bubble. I am just very suspicious. Boris Johnson said he wanted all primary children to have a month in school before the summer. We break up around the 20th of July so to achieve that they all have to be in by 20th June. As shops are opening 15th......

Straycatstrut · 26/05/2020 15:09

Most parents at home doing the schooling are knackered and juggling all sorts. I'm on my own unsupported without a break - holidays are even worse as I'm expected to entertain them hour after hour for a full week.... and I cannot "educate" like this. I really, really hope schools open in September. I can't do this anymore. I've already thought about suicide multiple times. Another mother I confided in with an autistic son said she almost drove her car into a wall last week.

z0fl0ra · 26/05/2020 15:11

I think the biggest issue will be specialist schools and whether they will be able to open as a lot of the children have 1-1 staff and need 2-1 staff for personal care, can you stay 2 metres away from children in wheelchairs or those that need support with feeding and toileting? Will they decide the risk of covid 19 is lower than the impact it will have on SN children and their families than if they can’t attend school until a vaccine is available?

cardibach · 26/05/2020 15:15

Schools have been open all along to the children most at risk of exposure to the virus via their parents occupations. I've heard of very little virus transmission through schools
@BogRollBOGOF from experience of teaching in a hub school on a rota, I’d say it’s down to numbers. There are usually between 5 and 10 students in the whole school, with 2 staff and a member of the leadership team. The chance of infection is really very much lower than even having pods of 15 in each classroom, and way below opening fully. I know many schools have had higher numbers than this, but still fewer than they will have on June 1st.

Blackbear19 · 26/05/2020 15:17

BogRollBOGOF
Really good post.

Straycatstrut
Your so right. I was working for the first 2 months of lockdown and couldn't cope. Furlough has removed a chunk of pressure but it brings a different set of problems

okiedokieme · 26/05/2020 15:19

Not attending school is risky for children too! I think the average person is willing to accept the tiny risk as the benefits are huge (specific medical exempted of course). The people here are far more cautious than real life friends!!!