Page 11 | If you were annoyed at Dominic Cummings before

NoMoreReluctantCustodians · 2020-05-26T06:41:35+00:00

How has his performance in the rose garden affected your opinion? YANBU it's made things worse YABU its cleared things up for me

Allergictoironing · 26/05/2020 10:22

I think the one most telling statement DC made yesterday, among all the bullshit & excuses, was his response when he was asked if he had thought about resigning. Point blank no, never even considered it. A reasonable person would have at least for a moment thought "should I?", then considered the decisions they had made and the reasons for them, then decided "No, I was justified in what I did and anyway now is not the time to leave BJ short on help in a crisis".

I think if he had said something along those lines rather than saying he'd never even considered it, he may not have received as much vitriol as he is now getting. But the sheer arrogance of the man, that he said he'd never even thought about it....

sunglasses123 · 26/05/2020 10:22

It really is political isnt it GetOff?

I do wonder as well why Sturgeon is getting away with such little scrunity especially over care homes. Its almost like the media dont want to even look into it.

I know she is wanting to do things differently to prove ID2 and lots of my Scottish friends say she doesnt have huge support around ID2.

Cam77 · 26/05/2020 10:23

One of the main reasons we voted to leave the EU was that we no longer wanted unelected bureaucrats governing over us.

Exactly. We didn't elect "Boris", we elected Alexander (Al) Johnson, who takes his orders from a man we know virtually nothing about beyond his hatred for the EU and his interest in eugenics. Long live democracy.

FliesandPies · 26/05/2020 10:26

Do leave off with the pathetic attempts to deflect onto Sturgeon. Unless you have evidence that she broke lockdown rules while infected with CV there is no comparison to be made.

Start another thread if you're so upset about it.

Cam77 · 26/05/2020 10:26

It aint "political"

The man blatantly broke his own rules - on at least two separate occasions - rules which millions of people with far fewer resources than he enjoys have been painstakingly following for 2+ months at often huge emotional/financial toll to themselves. Not hard to understand really. He should resign or be sacked.

LatteLoverLovesLattes · 26/05/2020 10:26

I have constituents who didn't get to say goodbye to loved ones; families who could not mourn together; people who didn't visit sick relatives because they followed the guidance of the government

I'm in that position. In fact today I am 'attending' online a funeral of a family member. I haven't been able to see his wife or their children, or his mum etc. It's horrendous

However, the 'rules' around that make a Scientific sense they are important. Just because DC was part of the team that decided on the guidance it doesn't make the risk level any different.

Neither did he do any of those things. So what's the actual point people are trying to make saying they didn't go to loved ones funerals??

Iwalkinmyclothing · 26/05/2020 10:26

I wasn't incensed by his actions, tbh. I know they were wrong but I do see that people do things that are wrong when they believe it to be in the best interests of their family. If he had accepted that he did wrong and apologised profusely I could have lived with that.

What has really annoyed me is the "fuck off plebs, when we do it it is fine, you can whistle for an apology and you will swallow the ridiculous excuses we give" response. Also, it is painful to see a government be so incompetent at handling a situation like this, it doesn't bode well for their ability to do much at all.

Mayra1367 · 26/05/2020 10:26

As a floating voter I will never ever vote Tory again. I do not take kindly to being taken for a fool.

GetOffYourHighHorse · 26/05/2020 10:28

'It really is political isnt it GetOff? I do wonder as well why Sturgeon is getting away with such little scrunity especially over care homes.'

Yes if our care home deaths were 40% like #ThankyouNicola's instead of 21% it would rightly be headlines.

The media have completely mishandled the whole situation. They had the perfect opportunity to get rid of him, but their doorstep scrum and abuse has actually swung public opinion.

sleepingpup · 26/05/2020 10:31

*Good for you, you're in the minority. Take a look at the streets, parks, supermarkets etc they're much more busy than they were weeks ago, reflecting ppl's change in attitude.

@travellerist*

nope not round here in Wales. you're wrong. And none of my mates in England.

HorseChestnutTree · 26/05/2020 10:31

As for the drive the day before. Yes. I can totally see a wife saying to her husband 'you haven't been well, are you sure you're up to driving? I think we should go for a drive and see how you feel today and if you're ok, go home tomorrow' and doing just that. They didn't go to a castle

There are so many things wrong with doing that. If he was worried about his eyes could he not have arranged an emergency opticians appointment (they are still working for emergencies & Very Special People like Cummings) Driving to check your eyesight? In what world does anyone think that is OK? And with your child in the car? No way.
It not only breaks the lockdown rules but it is dangerous as hell. But none of his Tory boy mates seem to want to address that pile of crap excuse.

Mammyloveswine · 26/05/2020 10:32

So many holes in the story... his miraculous recovery within hours, same with his wife and child....

Also even if his wife wasn't presenting with covid symptoms HE WAS and therefore no one should have gone to the hospital with the child (as awful as that would be).

I'm also staggered that he phoned 999 for a vomiting child (although I admit there must be more to it than this!!) who was then "back to normal" the very next morning! When he subsequently was well enough to drive and collect them both when the night before he was "unable to stand"...

It was so convoluted, too much minute detail, even when he was remembering the date he drove ("it was day 14..no 15...erm I can't remember...day 15...15" when he clearly remembered day 15 would look better...).

I genuinely don't believe him...it was all too coincidental, full of stupid excuses and miraculous recovery from illness...as for his wife's ridiculous article in the spectator...

I do hope he goes, I hope the press don't let this go.

LatteLoverLovesLattes · 26/05/2020 10:32

He would though presumably have been happy to have his teenage niece come into the part of the property he and his wife and kid were staying in, which was also almost certainly infected. He said himself he thought she and the other young woman were his best childcare option as they were in one of the least likely groups to get it, or get it badly

I assume had childcare been necessary then his son would have been taken over to his sisters house (on the same 'grounds') to be looked after.

If it's safe for teachers to have 15 4 year olds in a Classroom all day, I'm sure it's fine for them to have 1 4yo and if his sister is vulnerable she could have isolated in another room or at her parents.

ITonyah · 26/05/2020 10:33

If I hadn't been well I'd probably do a test drive before a long drive, yes.

StirlingWork · 26/05/2020 10:33

Maybe someone should do a parody of the "I never promised you a Rose Garden " song but change a few of the lyrics to make it more topical/relevant.

The vision testing excuse is ridiculous - but I have asked myself - if both he and his wife fell ill and they had no alternative childcare in London - who would have looked after the child?

LaurieMarlow · 26/05/2020 10:36

Police have issued a statement that driving to test your eyesight is an offence.

Just to clear that one up.

sleepingpup · 26/05/2020 10:36

We're not talking about fucking "shopping"
I think the number of people reverting back to weekly shops when they could actually get by visiting the supermarket every 2-3 weeks will have a bigger impact on the current situation than 1 politician driving a long distance to see family.

Do you?

Don't think so. You haven't noticed the front pages of every newspaper for the last few days etc etc etc

You don't think the political impact of this is massive?

Or as the gov's own scientific advisors have said could have massive health implications because undermining the clarity and consensus of lockdown.

it's not about fucking shopping.

GetOffYourHighHorse · 26/05/2020 10:39

'Do leave off with the pathetic attempts to deflect onto Sturgeon.'

Do leave off?

Oh I'm sorry flies I didn't realise you were thread prefect.

Look, it is relevant. This is all because of who he is, it's actually brexit revenge dressed up as lockdown outrage. For the trillionth time he didn't flout rules, he unwisely drove to be near his family as they were ill and may need childcare. Risks were minimal.

I actually thought initially he should have stayed at home but seeing how awful his neighbours were shouting abuse I can see why he'd want to self isolate elsewhere and put the welfare of his son first.

tabulahrasa · 26/05/2020 10:39

“So what's the actual point people are trying to make saying they didn't go to loved ones funerals??”

Well you’d have to ask Douglas Ross what point he’s making... but I’m imaging it’s the point that plenty of people could have quite easily done things like attend funerals, or had any other fairly important to them situation that they could have chosen to do in a fairly risk free way, but didn’t because the government message was to stay at home.

BeatrixPottersAlterEgo · 26/05/2020 10:39

Well, I've followed the lockdown guide to a T, but you know what, they can shove them up their arse now. I'm exhausted and I want to see my mum.

LemonyCupcake · 26/05/2020 10:40

Hopefully he’ll have to resign today

JeSuisPoulet · 26/05/2020 10:40

@StirlingWork for starters it didn't happen, so what if's are pointless as he well knows; his wife was ill when he was well enough to drive 260 miles and then she was well enough when he was sick. He didn't even ask to see if anyone would help, just made a choice to drive his sick wife and child across the country using his "judgement". Rather worrying considering his role must require a degree of calm planning and communication rather than jumping to worst case scenario and diving in at the deep end.

sleepingpup · 26/05/2020 10:42

We're not talking about fucking "shopping"
I think the number of people reverting back to weekly shops when they could actually get by visiting the supermarket every 2-3 weeks will have a bigger impact on the current situation than 1 politician driving a long distance to see family.

@travellerist

Do you?

Don't think so. You haven't noticed the front pages of every newspaper for the last few days etc etc etc

You don't think the political impact of this is massive?

Or as the gov's own scientific advisors have said could have massive health implications because undermining the clarity and consensus of lockdown.

it's not about fucking shopping.

stilldazed · 26/05/2020 10:42

The performance in the rose garden left me raging!

He is the only person in the UK that has a child right?

No toilet stop all the way from London to Durham but in a nice picturesque forest on the way back from a day trip to a castle... toilet stop.

It was easter weekend, it was his wife's birthday...All of which was left out.

If he was worried about his drive back to London downing street would have sent a car. The bloke earns 350,000 a year!!!

He is above the law and he knows it. His lies were an insult to honest British people that have sacrificed so much.

the cottage on his families private estate...just breeze blocks my arse.

They are laughing at us!

HorseChestnutTree · 26/05/2020 10:43

If I hadn't been well I'd probably do a test drive before a long drive, yes.

And if the police had stopped you and you had given that excuse you would have been turned back or fined.