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To think Be Kind does not seem to affect politicians?

92 replies

z0fl0ra · 25/05/2020 22:02

I’m preparing myself to get flamed but hear me out please.
Yes Dominic Cummings broke the rules, he acted stupidly and dangerously etc etc BUT isn’t the scrutiny he’s going under on every forum, newspaper, social media etc going way too far and completely opposite the message we were sending out a few months ago of Be Kind.
Caroline Flack was going to trial for domestic violence, she was top of the headlines for weeks, people calling for her to get sacked from ITV, she committed suicide.

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DioneTheDiabolist · 26/05/2020 02:36

Be kind is not the same as Believe my lies. Do not conflate the two OP.

PickUpAPickUpAPenguin · 26/05/2020 02:42

If he'd expressed regret then I think a lot of people's anger would have abated. Everybody has panicked and made a mistake but part of being an adult is acknowledging and owning those mistakes.

In your case "being kind" means not being allowed to be angry with his behaviour. Where is his kind behaviour?

DC took full advantage of the MSM's nastiness in the run up to the General Election. It is completely unfair of him to criticise them now that he's in their crosshairs. People have truly suffered during lockdown and it is natural that they think it's unfair. We were supposed to be all in this together and some people made truly heartbreaking decisions for the greater good. They deserve to be heard.

Thepigeonsarecoming · 26/05/2020 04:43

I wouldn’t apologise either if I thought I’d done the right thing to protect my family. If i did it would be false.

JamieLeeCurtains · 26/05/2020 05:25

In terms of the behavioural science of the country's Covid response, how Cummings has behaved has been very damaging.

'Kindness' is neither here nor there.

The PM has lost his grip on reality and that is dangerous; he resembles more the mop-topped Nero both he and Cummings studied at Oxford than the other chap he supposedly admires.

bellabasset · 26/05/2020 06:27

BeKind isn't applicable, the man's got the hyde of a rhinoceros.

Look at the reason Sajid Javid resigned. A Downing St conference for a government employee. - what on earth does the Queen think?

bellabasset · 26/05/2020 06:28

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Lostvoiced · 26/05/2020 06:35

I'll #BeKind after the Tories do.

I'll wait a long time, I imagine.

FourTeaFallOut · 26/05/2020 06:37

I'm not a fully paid up member of the be kind brigade in any case. Just being kind makes no demand of you to have a good long think about what went prior, about fairness, justice or truth. It's a bullshit - leave your brain at the entrance and embrace the rainbows - philosophy.

Inoneminute · 26/05/2020 06:38

We can't be in a position where the most powerful man in the country and/or the government can't be held to account because we have to "be kind".

If they didn't behave so badly, no one would be unkind.

Plus ask the last chancellor's staff about kindness.

JamieLeeCurtains · 26/05/2020 06:40

Ask Priti Patel's staff about kindness

Tellmetruth4 · 26/05/2020 06:56

Sick of this ‘Be Kind’ bollocks. I’ve never uttered it because it’s used as a way to silence people when they call out poor behaviour. A better mantra would be to #BeFair.

He knows he needs to be as clean a whistle seeing as he’s the architect of ‘Stay At Home’ but he thinks he’s above everything and everyone. He definitely should be held to account.

It’s funny how he was also the architect of ‘Take Back Control’ (from unelected bureaucrats) but he’s the most powerful unelected bureaucrat we’ve ever seen.

This guy is scarily powerful due to the links he has outside government, particularly to American billionaires such as Peter Thiel and Robert Mercer. Uber Libertarians who’s sole goal is to remove the state. Boris knows he cannot fire him, he’s too powerful, we all saw that yesterday.

Tellmetruth4 · 26/05/2020 07:02

Read the corruption below (Cummings gives multiple contracts to his friends, bypassing the tender process whilst you wonder if you’ll have job next month) but don’t forget to #BeKind

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/04/vote-leave-ai-firm-wins-seven-government-contracts-in-18-months

megletthesecond · 26/05/2020 07:04

Yabu.
Cummings was part of the team that wrote the lockdown rules. He broke them, worked while his wife was ill instead of isolating at home in London, drove when it doesn't appear to have been safe and wasn't capable of parenting a four year old. Not someone I think who should be in a position of power and influencing our government.

Tellmetruth4 · 26/05/2020 07:09

More about the £800m budget allocated by Sunak to Cummings pet project and it’s links to two of his his associates Ben Warner - Faculty (Vote Leave AI company) and Peter Thiel -Palantir (AI). All his mates making big money, mining our data whilst ever greater number of us are driven closer to Food Bank. In any case he’s a eugenicist so will probably believe poor people are poor because they are dumb so it’s totally justified.

bylinetimes.com/2020/05/20/dominic-cummings-billion-dollar-brainchild/

jerometheturnipking · 26/05/2020 07:13

“Be Kind” has always just meant “I’ll do whatever I like and if anyone says anything they’re the arsehole”.

Tellmetruth4 · 26/05/2020 07:14

Cummings hires freaks and weirdos who believe in forced teenage contraception and that women’s sport is the same as the Paralympics. But let’s #BeKind everyone!

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8009949/amp/Cabinet-open-revolt-Dominic-Cummings-new-super-forecaster-adviser.html

attackedbycritters · 26/05/2020 07:15

Be kind

Here's how it works for me

I be kind, I see how the other person reacts
If they are kind to me, so we continue
If they disrespect me, treat me like a fool then I am no longer kind

Game theory optimum strategy

wrinklin · 26/05/2020 07:25

@JamieLeeCurtains In terms of the behavioural science of the country's Covid response, how Cummings has behaved has been very damaging.

No, it was the media's inflammatory mis-reporting of his behaviour that caused the damage.

Samcro · 26/05/2020 07:42

he is not a politician . he is not elected he is an arrogant twat.
bringing CF into this is awful.

attackedbycritters · 26/05/2020 08:03

Yeah, if the media just hadn't reported on the fact that the rule setter broke the rules, then all would have been fine. Blame the media for reporting the actions not the person who took the actions . That's getting desperate.

crochetandshit · 26/05/2020 08:07

All #bekind means really is #shutup.

So, no.

RiverRide · 26/05/2020 08:10

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Justanothernameonthepage · 26/05/2020 09:15

The media did their job. If he'd followed the rules or at least been discreet about breaking them, there'd be nothing to report. Instead he lied about no near family, eye sight, childcare etc. And has tried to blame 'the media' and used the adult version of 'I am rubber you are glue' by claiming the reports have made factual errors, but not pointed out the errors and having admitted to the things he's been accused of. Oh and he managed to fuck up the whole concept of fining offenders of breaking lockdown now he has the attorney general claiming that being a parent is reason enough to break the rules.

Inoneminute · 26/05/2020 09:18

I've just been told on another thread to remember "Be Kind" and stop being so "fucking nasty". It seems to me that the people who keep trotting this out are anything but kind themselves.

In this instance, those in power need holding to account for the greater good. I think you could argue it is required to make the world kinder.

Rosehip10 · 26/05/2020 09:19

Cummings wife, Mary Wakefield (the spectator) is also a disingenuous bullshitter too:

"After the uncertainty of the bug itself, we emerged from quarantine into the almost comical uncertainty of London lockdown."

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