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Trump 101: How not to President (TrumpThread #101)

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TheNorthWestPawsage · 25/05/2020 20:13

Two images. Same day.
161 days to November 3rd.

Thanks to BruceAnd Nosh for thread title.

Previous thread:
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TheNorthWestPawsage · 03/06/2020 18:33

Poor old man - doesn't know where he lives.

President Trump tried to register to vote in Florida using an out-of-state address.

t.co/mpRBAQAl4m

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Lweji · 03/06/2020 19:32

I assume he doesn't want to go to NY to vote. Wink

TheNorthWestPawsage · 03/06/2020 19:39

McNinny... Tone deaf.

Kayleigh McEnany quotesMartin Luther King Jr.: "'I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.' Important words, important actions from an American hero."
twitter.com/thehill/status/1268248403064037376?s=21

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BruceAndNosh · 03/06/2020 19:45

[quote TheNorthWestPawsage]Poor old man - doesn't know where he lives.

President Trump tried to register to vote in Florida using an out-of-state address.

t.co/mpRBAQAl4m[/quote]
I can't open that Washington Post page...was this registering for a postal vote like McNinny uses every election?
I can't imagine Trump schelping down to the local High School in Palm Beach to actually vote in person.
Despite the fact that he condemns postal ballots

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 03/06/2020 20:04

It was more complicated, because he first applied for a postal vote he tried to use a different address, in DC not Florida, then he changed it to Mar-a-Lago, and then it was discovered that when he changed Mar-a-Lago from a private residence to a club he signed a legal document to the effect that he would never live there when it was being a club.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 03/06/2020 20:12

Meanwhile, does anyone know whether there is any truth in the rumour that one of the choppers being used to buzz the crowd from Lafeyette Square had a red cross on it? Utterly disgusting if true, but I can find any picture showing it.

TheNorthWestPawsage · 03/06/2020 20:31

Different link:
<a class="break-all" href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/president-trump-tried-to-register-to-vote-in-florida-using-an-out-of-state-address/2020/06/03/687d0014-a4f2-11ea-b473-04905b1af82b_story.html#click=t.co/mpRBAQAl4m" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/president-trump-tried-to-register-to-vote-in-florida-using-an-out-of-state-address/2020/06/03/687d0014-a4f2-11ea-b473-04905b1af82b_story.html#click=t.co/mpRBAQAl4m

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Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 03/06/2020 20:39

President Obama shortly to address the nation on George Floyd and violence, on obama.org
www.newsandguts.com/obama-to-address-nation/
I think #45 may be having a little hissy fit, or be going to hide in a bunker for the duration.
Trumpers are asking by what right he is doing this. I would think that was obvious, he was the last true President the USA had, and the current one is simply incapable of addressing the nation to unify it!

Lweji · 03/06/2020 21:26

Despite the fact that he condemns postal ballots

Indeed.

But pretty much all candidates use voting as another photo opportunity. He did go to vote in 2016 (you know, 1000000 years ago).

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 03/06/2020 21:35

"The symbolic significance of the Red Cross is pervasive: It denotes a 'noncombatant' function of the armed forces."

Says it all, really.

And the picture from the Independent makes it absolutely clear that there was indeed a red cross on the chopper.

What loathsome people these are.

B1rdbra1n · 03/06/2020 23:18

powerful testimony

Rev. Gini Gerbasi, the rector at St. John's Episcopal Church of Georgetown, said she was at the scene when police fired smoke canisters and pepper balls to disperse the crowds so that President Donald Trump could walk over to the church and take photos.
AcrossthePond55 · 03/06/2020 23:40

www.cnn.com/2020/06/03/politics/mattis-statement-trump/index.html

Mattis speaks out against Scrotus. Seems like more and more notable political/govt figures are speaking up against him. Even Esper said Scrouts was wrong to threaten to bring in the military. Now if more will just stand up for their convictions.

user764329056 · 03/06/2020 23:43

Did anyone else notice when he and his cronies gathered for the photo op they were all white and all men, except 1 female who is his press secretary. Sums him up

lionheart · 04/06/2020 00:45

The woman who got Churchill trending by saying Trump's visit was like Churchill inspecting bomb damage in WW2?

lionheart · 04/06/2020 00:50

Those Episcopalians though. Smile

Trump 101: How not to President (TrumpThread #101)
Roussette · 04/06/2020 08:09

www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/06/james-mattis-denounces-trump-protests-militarization/612640/

Jim Mattis has written a blistering critiicism of Trump.
“Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people—does not even pretend to try. Instead, he tries to divide us,” Mattis writes. “We are witnessing the consequences of three years of this deliberate effort. We are witnessing the consequences of three years without mature leadership. We can unite without him, drawing on the strengths inherent in our civil society. This will not be easy, as the past few days have shown, but we owe it to our fellow citizens; to past generations that bled to defend our promise; and to our children.”

He goes on to contrast the American ethos of unity with Nazi ideology. “Instructions given by the military departments to our troops before the Normandy invasion reminded soldiers that ‘The Nazi slogan for destroying us … was “Divide and Conquer.” Our American answer is “In Union there is Strength.”’ We must summon that unity to surmount this crisis—confident that we are better than our politics.”

Adam Serwer: America’s racial contract is showing

Mattis’s dissatisfaction with Trump was no secret inside the Pentagon. But after his resignation, he argued publicly—and to great criticism—that it would be inappropriate and counterproductive for a former general, and a former Cabinet official, to criticize a sitting president. Doing so, he said, would threaten the apolitical nature of the military. When I interviewed him last year on this subject, he said, “When you leave an administration over clear policy differences, you need to give the people who are still there as much opportunity as possible to defend the country. They still have the responsibility of protecting this great big experiment of ours.” He did add, however: “There is a period in which I owe my silence. It’s not eternal. It’s not going to be forever.”

That period is now definitively over. Mattis reached the conclusion this past weekend that the American experiment is directly threatened by the actions of the president he once served. In his statement, Mattis makes it clear that the president’s response to the police killing of George Floyd, and the ensuing protests, triggered this public condemnation.

Read: The Christians who loved Trump’s stunt

“When I joined the military, some 50 years ago,” he writes, “I swore an oath to support and defend the Constitution. Never did I dream that troops taking that same oath would be ordered under any circumstance to violate the Constitutional rights of their fellow citizens—much less to provide a bizarre photo op for the elected commander-in-chief, with military leadership standing alongside.”

He goes on to implicitly criticize the current secretary of defense, Mark Esper, and other senior officials as well. “We must reject any thinking of our cities as a ‘battlespace’ that our uniformed military is called upon to ‘dominate.’ At home, we should use our military only when requested to do so, on very rare occasions, by state governors. Militarizing our response, as we witnessed in Washington, D.C., sets up a conflict—a false conflict—between the military and civilian society. It erodes the moral ground that ensures a trusted bond between men and women in uniform and the society they are sworn to protect, and of which they themselves are a part. Keeping public order rests with civilian state and local leaders who best understand their communities and are answerable to them.

“When I joined the military, some 50 years ago,” he writes, “I swore an oath to support and defend the Constitution. Never did I dream that troops taking that same oath would be ordered under any circumstance to violate the Constitutional rights of their fellow citizens—much less to provide a bizarre photo op for the elected commander-in-chief, with military leadership standing alongside.”

As I understand it from what I've read, this is an absolute bombshell because the Military hold Mattis in high regard.

Trump of course has hit back in his usual schoolboy way.

Roussette · 04/06/2020 08:10

Ooops sorry I copied and pasted too much from that article!

Lweji · 04/06/2020 09:29

On top of Merkel not attending G7,
"The Germans are openly done with this president," a law enforcement official said.

www.businessinsider.com/european-security-officials-aghast-trump-protests-2020-6

BruceAndNosh · 04/06/2020 09:36

[quote lionheart]It's almost as if the women are there to take the blame.

www.rawstory.com/2020/06/hope-hicks-was-behind-trump-photo-op-stunt-that-led-to-peaceful-protesters-being-teargassed-reports/#.Xtf6XIWo-yw.twitter[/quote]
Jimmy Kimmels recent monologue included the (most probably fictitious) story that Ivanka had the idea of the photo op. As a result of it turning out to be a PR disaster "Ivanka has been demoted to Eric"

BruceAndNosh · 04/06/2020 09:41

Apparently Snapchat have stopped promoting Trump's Snapchat account (!)
There is no doubt that Trump personally handles his own Twitter, he definitely seems to have significant input into his Facebook account. If he's also on Snapchat (and you just KNOW he must use Reddit), how the fuck does he have any time left in the day to actually be a Leader!?

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