To not understand the outrage at Dominic Cummings?

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Please don’t flame me for this. I’m not posting this to be controversial. I am someone who always tries to see the good in people which has been to my detriment at time’s in the past so I’m very well aware that maybe I’m missing something here and being too kind when he possibly doesn’t deserve it.

My understanding is that Dominic Cummings is saying that he only returned to Durham on one occasion which was because he had fears about potentially being unable to look after his child if him and his wife both ended up too unwell with Covid. I can understand the logic in that.

I appreciate the government advice at that stage was to stay home but if he genuinely didn’t have anyone to help with his son, then I can understand his fears and that he was trying to put his child first as any parent would.

My understanding is that a matter of days after, the government did clarify that travelling in the event of needing support with children if you had caught covid was an exceptional circumstance and that travel in that instance was acceptable.

I personally live hundreds of miles from family and don’t have anyone I could ask for help in the local area was I to become unwell with Covid so this does resonate with me.

I understand that there were sightings of Dominic Cummings on other dates in Durham which indicate that he travelled back up there. If this is true, I definitely agree that he needs to be sacked, but at this stage, there is no proof of this.

Am I missing something here?

*@HeatherIV * if you truly don't know anyone that stuck to lockdown then you must know only idiotic selfish morons.

Me and DH stuck to it. I didn't go further than the garden for 9 weeks. DH went out maybe 3 times to buy food. My parents stuck rigidly to it, my two siblings also, my nieces and nephews, my friends.

Lots of my neighbours stuck to it. A few didn't but I already knew before lockdown that they were idiots

Sucking she basically crossed a bridge. She did not go 260 miles. And she didn't have a carful of Corona Virus.

As a senior advisor he must earn a fair amount. He could have bought in some support in the unlikely event that two youngish people where both unable to look after their kids at exactly the same time.
Meanwhile us single parents on NMW have to stay home and do as we are told.
Meanwhile Ismail (13 yr old boy from London) had to die alone and his own parents could not attend his funeral because of our governments rules.

He wasn’t even ill.Most people won’t get ill. He knew that.

Daffodil its not healthy to drive that many miles without a break.

Its actually downright dangerous

More emotive language. Now a child has died alone.

I think you mean ‘without his parents present.’

I know, Hadenough, but I did it every year and lived to tell the tale!

Actually OP, you spelling it out like that has just made me very suspicious that the law was changed a few days after he acted. It looks to me like he didn't 'just' break the law but also changed the law to suit his own circumstances.

I know, Hadenough, but I did it every year and lived to tell the tale!

And? I rather doubt that you did it with a four year old and an ill spouse every year.

Nobody would quote the distance if it had been ten miles, however, he would still have broken the rules.

To be fair the distance means that, with a four year old in the car, they must have stopped somewhere on the way. Generally, even with a small child, you can manage 10 miles without stopping at a service station.

Nobody is saying what he’s done is ok.

Plenty of posters bots have said just that.

The day he had a stroll round Barnard Castle just also happened to be on his wife’s birthday.

I think it’s the utter contempt he has shown for the public. Boris’ defence of him yesterday was cringe worthy. He should have at least said it wasn’t what was advised to do and they would be looking into it further, the fact he just defended him and wouldn’t acknowledge why people would be angry is why people are so annoyed about it.

Any decent person would see how their illness progressed and seek all other help first before taking the virus to the home of your elderly parents. I understand he has younger family in London.

My understanding is that a matter of days after, the government did clarify that travelling in the event of needing support with children if you had caught covid was an exceptional circumstance and that travel in that instance was acceptable

Really? I haven't seen or heard any such thing. Where did your understanding come from?

lili the jury is definitely out on whether he was actually ill. And, in any event , he DID become ill , possibly after trapping himself in a car with his wife. unless he is lying about that too

Highly likely’ for example. What does that mean? What’s the probability?

It ‘risks’ spreading the virus, certainly. But why is it ‘highly likely?’*

how does this tedious analysis of semantics relate at all to the question of what has actually taken place?

So Daffodil you don't see yourself as 'the common proles up in arms'and obviously don't like to align yourself with 'the mass outrage'but what's happened IS SHITE. define that.

Boris and Carry were back and forth from no10 and checkers and no one battered an eye.
When was this? Didn't Carrie leave Downing Street and return to her (their?) flat when she had Covid and remain their until BJ came out of hospital?

BJ remained in Downing Street until he was hospitalised and then, after making a speech to the nation at number 10, went with Carrie to recuperate at Chequers. That was the responsible thing to do as there are other people who work in Downing Street.

@lilgreen - so are you suggesting his wife wasn't absolutely truthful in her Spectator article about him 'lying doggo' for days as he was so ill and gently tended by their son giving him sips of Ribena? Surely not.

Lots of people stuck to lockdown, lots of people didn’t visit their sick and dying relatives because they adhered to the rules. Lots of people died by themselves with no family by their side....because they were following his f*cking rules. It can’t be one rule for them and one rule for us. Why is that fair? The police were fining and arresting people travelling unnecessarily by car for trips out.

Honestly, he’s a prick. Obviously thinks he’s above the rules. Oh the irony!

He should fully explain his motives. Then we should judge him.

In the meantime, it makes us look a bit daft when we are crying, talking about children dying alone, saying things are ‘highly likely.’ We are fucking cross and fucking fed up, but spinning the facts by being overly dramatic is ironic when we are accusing the government of....spinning the facts.

@judicoolibar. No just having a laugh at twitter like I said. The ones who are avoiding the inconvenient truth.

Daffodil101 that's heartless.
If you're not going to respond to points people make and just keep coming up with more peripheral reasons why you don't agree (because they quote the distance) then fine. You think what he did was OK, we get it. You're in a tiny minority though.

Distance is important as when ministers were questioned on how far people could travel for exercise, we were told a short distance.

flies Jenny Harries said something along these lines in the briefing interestingly on 24 March. I think, at the time, that was actually in defence of Jenrick.

These scientists must be getting mighty fed up of covering people's arses.