To not understand the outrage at Dominic Cummings?

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Please don’t flame me for this. I’m not posting this to be controversial. I am someone who always tries to see the good in people which has been to my detriment at time’s in the past so I’m very well aware that maybe I’m missing something here and being too kind when he possibly doesn’t deserve it.

My understanding is that Dominic Cummings is saying that he only returned to Durham on one occasion which was because he had fears about potentially being unable to look after his child if him and his wife both ended up too unwell with Covid. I can understand the logic in that.

I appreciate the government advice at that stage was to stay home but if he genuinely didn’t have anyone to help with his son, then I can understand his fears and that he was trying to put his child first as any parent would.

My understanding is that a matter of days after, the government did clarify that travelling in the event of needing support with children if you had caught covid was an exceptional circumstance and that travel in that instance was acceptable.

I personally live hundreds of miles from family and don’t have anyone I could ask for help in the local area was I to become unwell with Covid so this does resonate with me.

I understand that there were sightings of Dominic Cummings on other dates in Durham which indicate that he travelled back up there. If this is true, I definitely agree that he needs to be sacked, but at this stage, there is no proof of this.

Am I missing something here?

There must be cctv. Someone somewhere is being paid handsomely for binning the footage.

vdbfamily and ITonyah if you are both NHS workers you should be incensed by his stupid and arrogant behaviour.

I work in the NHS and find his behaviour an insult to everyone who has followed the LD rules( his bloody rules) to the letter, to everyone who has tragically died, their relatives and friends and to all staff on the frontline in every hospital working their bollocks off whilst he is ferrying his family up the other end of the country for no valid reason.

Considering who you work for I am astounded and saddened that you think this is OK.

Sorry - but when you read about people such as below who DID follow the rules... and then compare and contrast with what DC did? I think that this WILL literally mean a number of people will lose their lives.

The police have already said that this action fundamentally makes their position much harder and near untenable. As such, more people will do this and spread the disease much further. I really truly do not understand people who take a political position on this... "It's all lefties" "Just the press muckraking" etc. This is a global pandemic, and the people who make the rules don't follow them... and then lie about it. I truly do not care if it was Tory, Labour, SNP or the fucking space lizards (doffs cap - sorry Ma'am). They need to accept that he screwed up and get rid of him.

My Mum passed away a few weeks ago after an incredibly brave last stand against brain cancer. She was and always will be an inspiration to us all for the way she faced death head on, with humour and tonnes and tonnes of love.

Extracted from a newspaper:-

^When the lockdown started we knew we would not be able to see Mum unless she was in her final hours. We knew we would lose most of those precious last days. Incredibly painful as that was my family would never put the hospice staff or patients at unnecessary risk. We all spent many hours feeling so sad and desperate about that but we took it on the chin. So did many of my friends, parents who had Covid-19 but continued not only looking after their children but in many cases working as well.

To hear the drivel coming out of the cabinet and No 10 is embarrassing. Our family is grieving after having to say goodbye in the most unsatisfactory of circumstances. It is beyond an insult to families like mine that supposedly serious politicians should seek to justify this for even a second. It is incredibly obvious what Cummings should be doing if he has an ounce of decency.^

Good article about it in the Spectator:
outline.com/8qFbYR

WhatdoImean

Because he broke the rules. Now he is outright lying and saying he didnt.
Or was this another government "interpretation" that noone but him realised

I don't know anyone that has stuck to lockdown 100%.
Everyone I know has stuck to it.

Apologies - paragraph mix up - all the below was from the newspaper:-

My Mum passed away a few weeks ago after an incredibly brave last stand against brain cancer. She was and always will be an inspiration to us all for the way she faced death head on, with humour and tonnes and tonnes of love.

When the lockdown started we knew we would not be able to see Mum unless she was in her final hours. We knew we would lose most of those precious last days. Incredibly painful as that was my family would never put the hospice staff or patients at unnecessary risk. We all spent many hours feeling so sad and desperate about that but we took it on the chin. So did many of my friends, parents who had Covid-19 but continued not only looking after their children but in many cases working as well.

To hear the drivel coming out of the cabinet and No 10 is embarrassing. Our family is grieving after having to say goodbye in the most unsatisfactory of circumstances. It is beyond an insult to families like mine that supposedly serious politicians should seek to justify this for even a second. It is incredibly obvious what Cummings should be doing if he has an ounce of decency.

@NotEverythingIsBlackandWhite ok so if that’s the case, what would then happen? The infection would be passed to his elderly parents We were told NOT to get the over 70s to look after our children!!!

‘Transferring the virus up and down the country.’

The guy is clearly a prick, arrogant and not following rules. He needs to go.

However, where’s the evidence for the above statement? Did he transfer it to anyone? And was that just in Durham, or was he literally spraying the fields either side of the M1?

And was he frolicking like a rabbit through a field of bluebells? These are the sort of ridiculous, hysterical statements that let these threads down.

A bit like being told that we shouldn’t holiday in the UK this year ‘because children are being orphaned.’ Zero evidence given, when asked.

From the Tory-supporting Spectator:

'It’s not often a politician calls a press conference to sneer openly at the voters but Boris Johnson has always done things his own way. The Prime Minister’s performance this afternoon was a careful, considered declaration of contempt at all those chumps stupid enough to obey the rules he laid down for them. They thought those regulations applied to everyone, regardless of position or connections? What rubes'

When I had symptoms at the same time as Cummings, I stayed home for 14 days.

My husband and kids weren't even allowed in the bedroom, where I stayed, for fear of infection. It was lonely, isolating, but the right thing to do.

The prospect of even getting in a car, a confined space, let alone driving for hours, was unachievable. Not only was I too ill, but there's no way I'd risk viral load on my family.

There's also no way I would then have driven to see my mother (she lives 80 miles away, not 240, but even if she lived next door, why would I risk her 70+ life?).

We knew my husband might catch it, but like others we had no childcare.

Their actions are beyond selfish.

So this is ok?
A bit hypocritical of the media don't you think?

He went once so thought probably doesn't matter to go back. Plus was most likely working on the assumption he then had immunity. really @HeatherIV? HE HELPED TO WRITE THE RULES! So all this BS about 'he probably thought it doesn't matter to go back' doesn't apply to him. He's not just a 'man on the street' - he wrote the rules. There is no 'probably thought' in those cases. Either the rules say something or they don't. And they don't say you can travel 260 on a visit having already been on a so called child care mercy dash.

I'm having a massive laugh at Twitter. So many outraged and crying they are so angry. It's a witch hunt that is fuelled by politics, nastiness and hatred. That's all.

Nice try BoJo

Crying?

@ooooohbetty

So, you think it’s all a big joke?

It’s a classic case of do as I say and not as I do.

Let the plebs eat cake to keep down the R number and prevent overwhelming essential services but us important people can do as we please.

Yes, not everyone has stuck to lock down. Most of those people aren’t complete hypocrites in positions of power where being a role model is an implicit part of the contract.

@Daffodil101, the point is that he chose to take the risk of spreading the virus. He chose to make a 270 mile journey with a four year old that would necessitate fuel and loo stops. He chose to risk a breakdown or an accident needing people to put themselves at risk coming to help him.

No, self-evidently we won't be able to prove that someone caught the virus after touching a surface he had coughed on a few hours earlier. Trying to use that to excuse him, however, simply does not work.

I feel like the government is laughing at us being so obedient- following their stupid rules.

Well yeah, of course they are. Your the proletariat being controlled by the media. Your scum to elites like Boris.

People like me have been saying this whole time that the lockdown is an infringement on our civil liberties and that misinformation has been spread by the media to keep the sheep in line.

Looks like you all feel pretty silly now for following a lockdown the people that imposed it didn't actually support, or follow themselves.

I make my own decision about mine and my families personal safety based on data. I don't follow what our elitist government say based on media manipulation.

Well at least it’s another nail in the Conservative coffin. Carry on Boris, Keir is on standby.

Daffodil we were told to stay home to stop the virus spreading (whether we had symptoms or not). It's no great leap to say that leaving home when you do have symptoms is highly likely to spread the virus.
Or if not, why werent we all allowed to do it?

He's not elected. What he does in his spare time shouldn't effect his employment. Yeah its one rule for them another for us, but if you're that bothered more fool you for sticking to lockdown.

Best complete bollocks i've read in a LONG time. 👍🏻