AIBU to report neighbours for typhoid

[Cinders29]

Hi,

So long story our neighbours moved in about 2 years ago. They're extremely messy - huge pond and trampoline and god knows what in the front, back garden has rabbits, dogs and about 50 chickens. Food everywhere , loads of outbuildings and isn't 'stuff everywhere' anyway - no real problem to us ( apart from when we tried to sell our house )

However, we've noticed over the last couple of years an increase in rats ( we live near fields so expected but they're encouraging them ) there are 1000s of what I believe to be rat holes into his garden from the field next door. Weve also seen cockroaches.

Anyway, my son became very poorly a few weeks ago and was admitted to hospital for 4 days. Turns out he had typhoid which is ridiculous in this county right? Anyway with him being at home etc I just don't know where on Earth this could have come from.

Google says it comes from cockroaches - does anyone the likelihood of this please ? Also - if we suspect should we report ? I'll be so angry if it's come from there but I don't wanna just go around accusing when it could possibly have come from somewhere else

Typhoid??!!

I thought that would be covered with vaccines and was water-bourne?

Neighbours rat problem: call council pest control. You’d neighbours infestation is also you’d infestation, unfortunately.

Isn't Typhoid highly infectious? If so, chances are the NHS will have already reported it. I hope your son gets better soon. X

All due respect, your son has caught typhoid because he has either not washed his hands before eating or he has eaten something prepared by someone who hasn’t washed their hands.

YABU.

Trust me, environmental health will be on your doorstep soon as!

Fucking hell, what did I just read?

Yes, definitely report this. To the Council, I guess. Grim.

www.gov.uk/government/collections/typhoid-and-paratyphoid-guidance-data-and-analysis

It's a notifiable disease.

Id put a call in to environmental health anyway though

Report to environmental health?

Doubt it
Typhoid fever is uncommon in the UK, with anestimated 500 cases occurring each year.

In most of these cases, the person developed the infection while visiting relatives in Bangladesh, India or Pakistan.

Umm typhoid can be caught by not washing your hands and preparing food or drink (or just eating with your hands) after the toilet.

I got typhoid while traveling in super clean locations because someone clearly prepared a salad without washing. It isn't for sure it's a result of your neighbor.

www.nhs.uk/conditions/typhoid-fever/causes/

Typhoid is a Notifiable Disease. It will be reported to environmental health I think?

You can report the neighbour to council but it s about washing hands and hygiene.
Did your child pick up a rat ? Bitten by a rat?
Are you sure you dont mean tetanus? After a scratch in the garden from falling over?

You've seen cockroaches next door? What kind of telephoto lens are you using for your curtain twitching OP?

What kind of telephoto lens are you using for your curtain twitching OP?

🤣

If he's been diagnosed in hospital it will have been reported already - typhoid is a notifiable disease. Hope he's better now, OP.

Do you have cockroaches on your house?
Did your child visit the neighbour and then didn't wash hands?

I’m not sure how he would have caught it from your neighbours property unless he is around there in their mess?

Having previously spent time in a country where typhoid is endemic, we learned that it is spread via poor sanitation when faecal matter contaminates food or water, or with direct contact with someone who has the disease themselves.

Phone the council for advice. Our neighbours were providing a 5* rat hotel, council ratman said he'd tell the people that clean up fly tipping.

Google says it comes from cockroaches - does anyone the likelihood of this please ?

They can carry it but if that was the case where would they have got it from?
Are you in the UK?

With all due respect, it sounds like your family's personal hygiene is the issue

Bloody hell, typhoid???

Typhoid is spread from person to person through ingesting human urine and faeces, usually through unclean water or food prepared unhygienically. It is not typically spread by animals or insects. Rats and cockroaches do carry some infectious diseases/ bacteria in the UK but typhoid is not usually one of them; typhoid is very rare in the UK and even when it is seen it has usually been picked up abroad rather than within the UK. If a cockroach came into contact with human faeces infected with typhoid then it could potentially carry typhoid, and in theory infect somebody, but this isn’t a typically route of transmission even in countries where typhoid is common, let alone in the UK where typhoid is very rarely seen. Most people who are diagnosed with typhoid in the UK picked it up whilst abroad; it is still common in many parts of the developing world, especially South Asia, but not usually found in Europe, including the UK.

If your son was diagnosed with typhoid I am surprised that the hospital did not question you about where he may have picked it up, especially during a lockdown, as it is a highly infectious life-threatening disease not typically transmitted within the UK. Did they test you or anybody else in your family for it? I imagine if they didn’t ask then it will be investigated soon as the hospital will have needed to report the diagnosis so you can share your concerns about your neighbour.

Umm shouldn't he have been vaccinated against typhoid?

It's spread by consuming infected fecal matter in water sources generally or by someone preparing food who is infected.

I don't think your neighbours out-houses and managerie have caused this unless your son is drinking from their water source 😳

It's a notifiable, highly infectious disease OP.

Everyone saying that it’s the ops fault for not getting him to wash his hands, have you met children?
Is he of age where he could be playing in the garden, pokes a cockroach, then sticks his finger up his nose?
(I taught early years for a long time, nose picking and shoe licking were almost constant)