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Do you believe that shellfish feel pain?

168 replies

QuestionableMouse · 23/05/2020 13:21

Just been talking to my mum on the phone and we got to talking about stuff from childhood including our seaside trips. She used to buy two or three live crabs and boil them when we got home.

I was always horrified by it as a child and thought it was horrible. I'm still uncomfortable with the idea as an adult.

It seems that it's recommended to kill crabs/lobsters now before cooking.

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Whatiswrongwithmyface · 23/05/2020 13:29

Boiling them alive is the quickest and most humane way to do it. Unless you want to stab them first before you drop them in the water.

RaininSummer · 23/05/2020 13:45

I think any creature can feel pain and distress. I can't eat them for that reason.

Dreeple · 23/05/2020 13:54

You could argue that they don’t feel anything except pain.

It could perhaps be claimed that they are not conscious though.

Jasmineben · 23/05/2020 13:55

Humane or not, I could never bring myself to drop living creatures in boiling water.

MsMeNz · 23/05/2020 13:56

Of course they feel pain. As it indicates danger or damage to self. I'm not a vegitarian but trying to cut down and my son's both announced after we watched a documentary yesterday they want to be vegitarian so I will support that. Off to stock up on meat free options later.

ArthurMrdr2 · 23/05/2020 14:35

Of course they feel pain, like any other creature. A lot of people believe that sea creatures do not feel pain. In some countries fish and Octopus are eaten whilst still alive.

QuestionableMouse · 23/05/2020 14:36

I eat meat but only a small amount and I get it from a butcher so its high welfare. I could never drop an animal into boiling water either!

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Soubriquet · 23/05/2020 14:37

Well since it’s been known that a crab actually amputated its own claw to save itself whilst in the pot, I would say yes they feel pain.

Most people freeze them first before cooking.

Beamur · 23/05/2020 14:39

It has been shown that crabs learn from a painful experience and seek to avoid it happening again. I won't eat crabs, lobsters, etc.

HavelockVetinari · 23/05/2020 14:39

Well, they do feel pain, but not in a conscious way. I would probably drop them straight into boiling water myself to kill them almost instantly rather than slowly heat them.

Helmlover1 · 23/05/2020 14:40

Yes they do, and crabs scream when they are dropped in boiling water. But we live in a society that’s desensitised to the pain and suffering of animals and sealife.

Sparklingbrook · 23/05/2020 14:43

I couldn't drop something alive into boiling water or put it in the freezer to kill it then eat it. No thanks.

I don't eat shellfish, or fish as I don't fancy doing the operating theatre experience at the dinner table and cracking something's limbs off.

Obviouspretzel · 23/05/2020 14:43

I thought the common method now was the knife behind the eyes/through head? That's what I would do.

And seeking to avoid a painful experience does not prove that an animal can feel pain in the sense that we do. It simply proves that they have an instinct to self preserve, as pain can indicate chance of death.

Obviouspretzel · 23/05/2020 14:44

And they do not scream. It is the sound of steam in the shell. I still wouldn't do it though.

HavelockVetinari · 23/05/2020 14:45

Actually I've just googled it - apparently they DO feel pain, so it's more humane to stab them in the brain with a sharp knife just before cooking.

Sparklingbrook · 23/05/2020 14:48

Stabbing a living creature in it's brain. Yummy!

CoraPirbright · 23/05/2020 14:49

They don't scream - they don't have vocal chords or anything. I think the noise is air escaping from the shells. However I do think its cruel to drop them into boiling water. There is a special point somewhere where a sharp incision kills them instantly. Much better I think.

StepAwayFromGoogle · 23/05/2020 14:52

Surely if science can't prove it one way or another you just assume they do and kill them the fastest and most humane way you can?
The vast majority of the pigs slaughtered in the UK are suffocated with CO2. Can't imagine that's a nice way to go but it doesn't stop people eating pork, sausages, bacon...

Poniesandgin · 23/05/2020 14:53

Why would anyone think dropping a living creature into boiling water is humane Sad
They do not die instantly.

Obviouspretzel · 23/05/2020 14:55

@Sparklingbrook what method of dispatch for an animal would you suggest? Unless your suggestion is none, as you are vegetarian. In which case,fair enough.

MilkTwoSugarsThanks · 23/05/2020 14:59

In some countries fish and Octopus are eaten whilst still alive.

Including the UK. Oysters are eaten alive.

Sparklingbrook · 23/05/2020 15:01

I am not vegetarian (I eat chicken). I don't believe they are stabbed in the brain.

CovidicusRex · 23/05/2020 15:05

I have no idea. Realistically it is impossible for us to understand how and to what extent they feel pain. To be honest it’s not something I think much about seeing as I don’t eat things with an exoskeleton as a rule.

HoldMyLobster · 23/05/2020 15:06

I thought the common method now was the knife behind the eyes/through head?

I live in Maine and very very few lobsters here are killed before they're dropped in the boiling water. The tourists don't seem to care either way.

TheFaerieQueene · 23/05/2020 15:07

If the have a central nervous system- which they do - they feel pain.