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To feel like parents aren't allowed to criticise teachers anymore?

562 replies

velaryon · 19/05/2020 19:32

I have the utmost respect for the teaching profession, especially the hard work and dedication of many teachers despite a pandemic and nationwide lockdown.
But at the same time, I've seen a lot of parents genuinely concerned about the teaching & communication at their DC's school who were immediately accused of 'teacher bashing' and being too lazy to teach their own children.
AIBU to think this is absolutely ridiculous?
I don't see anything wrong with questioning the level of teaching a school is providing, provided it's done in a sensitive and understanding way. IMO it's ridiculous how quickly someone is accused of teacher bashing for asking a legitimate question.

OP posts:
stopcock · 20/05/2020 16:24

According to posts on other threads he's an electrician.

picklejimmy · 20/05/2020 16:25

Hearhoovesthinkzebras
That's the most accurate description of what we are doing. But no one sees that side of it.

tonglong · 20/05/2020 16:27

@LemonPudding

If the schools have not been instructed to stay open, why are they open with key workers children in them right now

mbosnz · 20/05/2020 16:27

Oh my. Can't wait to hear tonglong's response.

OhCaptain · 20/05/2020 16:28

😂😂

tonglong · 20/05/2020 16:28

@stopcok

I said my partner is a nurse.

Hospitals also use electricity.

tonglong · 20/05/2020 16:29

Yes we are wrong to work and should not have been taking the children to school during this at all.

LolaSmiles · 20/05/2020 16:31

This again.Hmm

It's simple.

  1. If anyone has a question/query/criticism of their child's school, the best place to direct it is the school. If you want to discuss your child's school on mumsnet then great, nobody cares. Ask in the education board and you'll probably also get a range of teachers happy to advise and help.
  1. If you're going to start a goady thread / open a thread with a reasonable question but end it with silly ranty generalisations / start making stupid, misleading or inflammatory comments about a profession, don't.

It's not rocket science.

Now can we get away from 'eeeh nobody can ask a single question about schools these days can they' (insert faux naïve head tilt here).

spanieleyes · 20/05/2020 16:32

Schools are open for keyworker children now because it is term time. They don't have to open during the school holidays. Some will. Some won't. Those that do can because the teachers have volunteered to work during their holidays. If the school isn't open, the local authority will find you somewhere that is.
Can't be any clearer, really!

LemonPudding · 20/05/2020 16:33

If the schools have not been instructed to stay open, why are they open with key workers children in them right now

Because people VOLUNTEERED. Do you know the meaning of that word? They were not instructed they offered. To just bang on and on when you are in the wrong makes you look daft. If the other parents at your school are anything like you I can understand the staff not wanting to volunteer.

ChloeDecker · 20/05/2020 16:37

If the schools have not been instructed to stay open, why are they open with key workers children in them right now

You are changing your stance-you have been talking about half term and that is what posters have been responding to. Needless to say, guidance was this:

We expect schools and local authorities should work together to ensure that different settings are supported to stay open wherever possible, taking into account their circumstances and cohort (for example, special settings and alternative provision). And, we want local authorities to help coordinate what this means, working with education settings to deliver the services required

Emphasis being on the local authorities to co-ordinate to take into consideration circumstances and cohorts. This includes staffing. As such, a lot of schools have stayed open to support this and local authorities have set up Hubs to ensure childcare where the circumstances make it not possible to be in a school.

Therefore, as my previous advice to help you was ignored, I would again recommend that you tell your partner to contact their local authority/council to access their provision for this half term.

TheSultanofPingu · 20/05/2020 16:43

Tbh I'm surprised that schools are open next week. It will make the preparations for the 1st June more difficult.

stayathomer · 20/05/2020 16:43

See teachers will never be able to win on this (no I'm not a teacher). On our WhatsApp groups (4 kids aged 5-12) we have parents going NUTS over teachers lack of assistance and saying they want us to do eg Google classroom, and others (including me) relieved that we can do things at our own pace and our own time. Different paces are suiting different people in lockdown and I don't see how they can meet. We get work every morning but it's not handed up. A number of people have gone mad over this but there's others (again me!) who do things in a different order, on different days etc. This would break our whole system and I'm so relieved we don't have to. And I'm seeing tons of teacher bashing.

spanieleyes · 20/05/2020 16:45

That's part of the problem. What suits one parent doesn't suit another so whatever we do is wrong!

mbosnz · 20/05/2020 16:46

I think, tonglong, that OhCaptain might have hit the nail on the head about the source of much of your educational woe. I hope for your children's sake that they are able to return to school soon.

Tootletum · 20/05/2020 16:46

It's not even criticising teachers to ask how exactly all this is supposed to work. And to question the unions narrative of the risk profile based on the science. Seems like there is little to no sign of children under 10 being even able to spread it never mind catch it. A German medical board in Germany has just issued that statement and promptly been criticised by the union - literally for stating medical evidence.

tonglong · 20/05/2020 16:48

The OP was about parents feeling like they can't crisis teachers

I shared my experience of how our school is very unhelpful. We are very polite and considerate when dealing with the school.

My mistake if the schools were not instructed to take the children key workers. How very generous of them to volunteer.

mbosnz · 20/05/2020 16:50

The OP was about parents feeling like they cant 'crisis' teachers?

Again, what?

I wonder what the school would say about how you are when dealing with them?

And yes, it is generous of them to volunteer isn't it? Is your wife working for free? Are you?

CallmeAngelina · 20/05/2020 16:58

Hospitals use electricity, yes.
So does my house, but I don't have an electrician permanently on call. In fact, the last time I managed to get one to answer his phone to come and do a minor job in my house, he never turned up.
Damn. Should have started a thread criticising all electricians everywhere.

ChloeDecker · 20/05/2020 17:11

Seems like there is little to no sign of children under 10 being even able to spread it never mind catch it

There is. Check out The Lancet which published data on 30th April that children under 10 do catch and spread it as much as adults. The attached graphic gives a summary of the data.

However, I know this is not what the thread is about. Sorry to derail.

To feel like parents aren't allowed to criticise teachers anymore?
wintertravel1980 · 20/05/2020 17:19

Check out The Lancet which published data on 30th April that children under 10 do catch and spread it as much as adults. The attached graphic gives a summary of the data.

The attached graph shows that (i) children catch virus as much as adults but (ii) hardly any of them have severe symptoms (the red dot is very close to zero). In other words, children are pretty much safe from C19.

The graph on its own shows absolutely nothing on virus spread.

tonglong · 20/05/2020 17:20

@mbosnz

OP. Refers to the Original Post

Refer to this thread and it's heading

The teachers are on a wage and are getting paid. When there I'm term time they are getting paid.

DamnYouAutoCarrot · 20/05/2020 17:21

@LolaSmiles I think your post is unfair in that many parents here have expressed that they have broached the school and gone further.

I understand from reading some of the threads, why teachers on the whole would be upset reading them. However, posters such as yourself with insert naieve headtilt are offensive in their own right. No one has to use any particular board on here to post and no one has to read a post either.

The consensus on both fronts seems to be a lack of leadership and consistency across the board. Information is clearly not being disseminated to teachers or parents and it's causing additional stress to everyone!

No one wants to be working 12 hour days to be told they are, on the whole, doing nothing and nobody likes to think that their children are being done a disservice.

DamnYouAutoCarrot · 20/05/2020 17:22

*naive

tonglong · 20/05/2020 17:22

@CallmeAngelina

Large buildings and places like hospitals usually have permanent facilities staff to keep the building running.

We are constantly trying to weed out the rubbish from our industry and we are not afraid to call out the bad ones.